AMX is a shame
neoguiri
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Why AMX is so bad to do things that work??? All their Maj introduce bugs and those bugs are never fixed or they are but they introduce new bugs. The worse is that you have no choice, you just have the choose between of one bug or the another...
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I think AMX control is really good. I don't do as much NetLinx programming as I used to, but every time I come back to it, it just seems to make sense. It's an abstraction that works really well. I can't speak to Muse programming since I haven't done any of that yet, but I imagine the modern tools make it even easier.
But with that said, I've had no end to problems with DXLink...
I agree AMX had a huge potential but since many years they shoot themself in the foot and nothing seems to change years after years... You can't be confident with the future of AMX because there is no following and no communication except wondefull announcement that finally come out to be less functionalities and more complex stuff for nothing except bugs and headache to make old and new product work seamlessly together. AMX is not the best brand to invest in a long term infrastructure.
I have to say that I totally disagree. AMX is pretty much the most consistent platform. I use it for lots of diverse projects and it just works. I've used craptron, C4, Savant and they all keep trying to add new features because the programming base is not good enough to produce decent code or , in the case of C4 and Savant, don't have access to do so.
Sure there are bugs, the platfor you're using to access this forum probably has loads.
The last FW upgrade is the first one I've come across in years that has any major issues. The bulk of my market is residential so I have to write most things from scratch, create my own modules etc.. and I find it a great base to work with. Everytime Craptron issue a FW update it breaks so many things it's not real. I don't even waste my time with it anymore...true blue support is shockingly bad. They are all competing in the same contracting space and for a lower skills base.
MUSE looks excellent. I went to the Node Red training to see how it works and its been really well though out. I'm working on learning Python to use with it.
With the work that has gone into MUSE, I'd say AMX is a pretty good base to invest in unlike, say C4, that is now owned by ADI Global - you even have to PAY for support for it now :-).
As with all systems, we all have our opinions and preferences. Mine will be AMX.
AMX is a shame not because of the products but because of the dev politics. I can do a endless list of stupid choices and bugs AMX did all the way long. I know about "Crapton" as well or C4, Ext.on etc.... But look at the last release date of all the products softwares and firmwares that keep bugs since years and years without any fix. Do you think that the way a company that take care of their users should work? I'm not sure. AMX is not reliable when there is a bug. If by chance everything is working for you for your install that's fine. But otherwise you are alone for month and they don't care. if they did care they would have a continuous developement and bug correction. Which is not the case.
Well. I've used AMX for over 20 years. Done high end jobs in Resi, Marine and corporate and I don't come across this mass of bugs that you seem to say you come across.
Of course there are going to be issues from time to time and sometimes you have to work around them, but I think you're being overdramatic.
You need to work with your distributor
I need to work with proper materials that doesn't need workaround to work at that price. Maybe you had luck or you do simple stuffs, i don't know, but i also have a lot of experiences and it was not the dream that you suggest.
Neo... I don't know what you hope to accomplish by continuing your condemnation of AMX from within the community that comes here for support. Are you hoping to discourage others, or to seek assistance to meet your project needs? If you are trying to make AMX work for you, maybe stop slapping those who can help. If you've given up entirely, your time is better invested in seeking a platform that suits you.
"I need to work with proper materials that doesn't need workaround to work at that price. Maybe you had luck or you do simple stuffs, i don't know, but i also have a lot of experiences and it was not the dream that you suggest."
Pretty much all of my projects are complex ones, with custom modules and very rarely use AMX Written modules (Except Lutron QSX, because they won't release the protocol)....We're not cookie cutter programmers.
If you think you are going to find any product out there without some bugs or weird traits, you're going to be very disappointed. Real world, you have to adapt...
I reckon you should try C4 and see what pain you get with that :-)
First it's a general discussion so i supposed we can speak generally here. Second. My hope is a wake up of AMX. Just a small push to move forward and pay attention to those lack of dev and consistancy. Spare the rod and spoil the child. I like AMX and i think they have the best protocol and system. But it's like they stop in front of the finish line all the time.
Good luck for you if you had no problem and you didn't face the strange decision AMX took in their history. But you could respect that is not the case for everyone.
So to finish this thread. I will say that AMX is one of the best if not the best brand in it's kind but it should be more serious and professionnal in the other way. I mean by that, better stability before sharing firmware or software update. Be in full control of there developpement for better update and bug correction for TPDesign and Netlinx Studio. And stop updating hardware and specialy touchscreen to downgrade in fonctionality with a astronomic price compare to the tactile world we have now. Last think is a better research and developpement in the ergonomy of there touch screen for accessing connectivity for that price it could better designed.