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adysadys Posts: 395
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Hi all


I am having strange problem with my TPs (8400)

Animations are very slow, even the local animation, the system is very very slow.

On my wire TP ( NXT12V) the system is running like it should, very very fast.

Its the same TP file only converted to the NXT version , and it uses the same controllers to get the data.

I connected with telnet to see memory state - in the 8400 I have "largest block" around 3 megs.
In the NXT I have 130 megs.


I have few questions:

1.I want to try and add some memory to the 8400, is the only way to do that is by adding a bigger flash card?

2.Any way to upgrade the ram itself?

3.If not, the flash card upgrade can help me? currently I have 64 megs only...

4.And if I buy a flahs card can I do the upgrade my self - I read all about it here - and didn't find if there is a way to do it...

http://www.amxforums.com/showthread.php?t=382&page=2&highlight=compact+flash

Thanks

Ady

Comments

  • ryanwwryanww Posts: 196
    I am not sure about the rest, but I can answer about attempting to do your own memory card. Currently you can only re-image your card with the same size. Even if you image to a 512 card, you will only get 64mb of it. The only way around it is if you imaged it from a 512 card.. or someone gave you one.

    It is probably far better to purchase one from AMX if your dealing with a client. But if it's your own, then that is a whole other story!

    Ryan
  • adysadys Posts: 395
    We ordered a card, its not a problem of money, only a matter of time we wanted to save until we will get it... I am not located in US and it can take few days , even 1-2 weeks...


    I think that one of the problems is that we are using only PGN-24 with transparency in our project.

    we have 1430 images in our file.


    Yesterday I made a test and changed all the the images to PNG-8 128 colors
    I made export to all , changed them with photoshop script, and import them back

    I don't see even one image from some reason?

    BUT!

    The TP is runing like hell, everything is working so so fast...

    I will continue to work this direction and update.


    What I really wanted to know if I can upgrade RAM in the 8400 ( from what I read - I can't) and if I upgrade the CF it will help the performance.

    thanks

    Ady.
  • adysadys Posts: 395
    update 2:


    I change all the images to PNG-8 and the performance stayed the same.


    I removed all animation buttons ( multi state buttons) and made some of the multi states buttons to be general buttons - guess what???


    The TP works fast like never before.

    Any idea what cause this?
  • DHawthorneDHawthorne Posts: 4,584
    It's probably nothing more than that the GPU on the panel is underpowered (or under-optimized, though it comes to the same thing) for that many animations.
  • adysadys Posts: 395
    Ok!

    update 3 : :):):)

    I am very very happy today :)

    I moved all the speaker animations from 64 states to 4 states ( we have lots of them, about 200) and everything is working like magic!

    That is very important to know, I never thought that animations can cause the TP not to function, even when not in the page of the animations...

    I did it with lots of repeating states to save network transition, but that was like shooting my leg...

    I thinks that solve our problem, I never saw the TP working so fast (thouch wood)

    :)


    P.s

    I want to use the auto repeate animation flag, so I will have to turn on the animation only once from the code, and then it will run from the panel alone, someone ever used that?

    Thanks.
  • Spire_JeffSpire_Jeff Posts: 1,917
    That raises a good question for a kind AMX engineer. Is there a document that lists recommended maximums for button counts, animation buttons, states, and anything else that might cause these problems?

    As for the auto repeat, I have used it with success. It is as straight forward as it seems.

    Jeff
  • adysadys Posts: 395
    Spire_Jeff wrote: »
    That raises a good question for a kind AMX engineer. Is there a document that lists recommended maximums for button counts, animation buttons, states, and anything else that might cause these problems?

    As for the auto repeat, I have used it with success. It is as straight forward as it seems.

    Jeff

    Yes, that could have save me a lot of time.

    After all , I did what the TPDesign let me do, so I expected it to work as it should...
    My advice, don't do animation with more than 10 states.


    About the auto repeat - I need to turn on and off the states (state 4 is off) and to run the animation from state 1 to 3 all the time after I trun it on.

    Is it possible to do that?
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