iPort FS-4 module/communication problems??
vegastech
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I downloaded and loaded the iPort amx driver from sonance's website, but I seem to be having a problem with the communication portion. I checked that I am indeed using the correct serial port on my controller, but I get no response when trying to control either my 3g ipod nano or my iphone. I opened the debug window and started watching the string buffer each time I pressed a button, and here's what populated in the watch bar:
ERROR=UNKNOWN FEEDBACK MESSAGE
Could this be a port configuration issue, or perhaps a wiring problem? I wired the iport a little differently than usual: I plugged the 232 cord directly into the advanced connection unit and that into my NI, instead of running thru the wallplates. I don't have a 4 cond. wire currently, which is why I did it that way. If I did need to wire it that way, is the pinout just a straight thru?
ERROR=UNKNOWN FEEDBACK MESSAGE
Could this be a port configuration issue, or perhaps a wiring problem? I wired the iport a little differently than usual: I plugged the 232 cord directly into the advanced connection unit and that into my NI, instead of running thru the wallplates. I don't have a 4 cond. wire currently, which is why I did it that way. If I did need to wire it that way, is the pinout just a straight thru?
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I have gotten my iPhone to work but I had to put it in 'Airplane' Mode. (turns off the phone portion. Also, the base station will not charge the phone.
We've had a bad run of Sonnance iPorts in the last year. Not so much the in-walls but the base stations. Several have been dead out of the box.
I tried it, but my "unknown feedback message" turned into absolutely no response, as if the 232 port wasn't connected.
Jeff
P.S.
I have always connected the iPort directly to an AMX processor without problems.
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Does the iPod device display that its connected to the iPort when you plug it in?
If so, then make sure you put in the RS232 chip. It's easy to miss.
I played with my home unit IW-4 with the iPod iTouch and it finally did work but very iffy. I also have a Nano that I tried which is a pain to just dock and that was iffy too.
What's everybody's overall take on these units reliability? I seem to have issue with 1 out 4, which I ultimately have to replace. The newer FS-22's seem better but no physical support for the iPod/iPhone while docked. It just sits on the connector at a slight angle just begging for a kid to come by and snap it off by pushing on it. Are we done with intelligent design and just have to wait until these things evolve out their poorly conceived attributes?
You're probably right about the chip.
We've installed bunches of them and they always kinda scare me. 1 in 4 bad ones seems about right for us too.
We have been with Sonance since well before they introduced the iPorts. I remember we were showing one at a Home Show. They shipped it to us the day before the show with thier version on an AMX module. It didn't work at all out of the box. After speaking with the rep and their tech support, they had to overnight us a 'frimware' upgrade. When it arrived, I was amazed to find that it was the 'firmest' firmware upgrade I'd ever seen. It was a whole new front bezel and plate with a new chip hot-glued in place. It also came with a new 'loose tooth' RS-232 chip.
As we were working with thier engineers on the phone I kinda kidded him about how 'firm' the firmware was. I told him most folks did it with software nowadays.
In general, this seems to be the operation of the manufacture of this product. It's not very future-proof. Early on, howver, they were pretty reliable. The flakyness seems to be a more recent deveolopment. Whether this is the result of working with another manufacturer who does what they darn well please (Apple) or not is still up in the air.
I do actually use the UI module for this too but have completely redesigned the TP interface and modified it beyond all recognition. So, there's no point in posting that for you. It'd only make more work for you.
Assuming the cable between the two is good and whatnot, yes.
Ok, I spoke with AMX tech, and they suggested that I contact Sonance, as they suspected a bad dock or connection box. I called Sonance, and we were able to use their terminal emulator software to test the rs232 port from the wallplate: All good. I can query the firmware version on the mainboard, wallplate, and adv. connx box, as well as query the name of my ipod. I took that exact cable (the rj11 to db9 sonance factory cable), unplugged it from my PC's serial port, and plugged it into my NI700's serial port 1. This is what I get:
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Line 98 (16:20:30):: Command From [33015:1:1]-[REQUEST_REMOTE_UI_MODE?]
Line 99 (16:20:30):: String To [5001:1:1]-[*I$00$03<<?$FD]
Line 100 (16:20:39):: Command To [10001:1:1]-[^UNI-116,0,005200450050004500410054007C004F00460046]
Line 101 (16:20:39):: Command To [10001:1:1]-[^UNI-117,0,00530048005500460046004C0045007C004F00460046]
Line 102 (16:20:40):: Command To [33015:1:1]-[REQUEST_REMOTE_UI_MODE?]
Line 103 (16:20:40):: Command From [33015:1:1]-[REQUEST_REMOTE_UI_MODE?]
Line 104 (16:20:40):: String To [5001:1:1]-[*I$00$03<<?$FD]
Line 105 (16:20:49):: Command To [10001:1:1]-[^UNI-116,0,005200450050004500410054007C004F00460046]
Line 106 (16:20:49):: Command To [10001:1:1]-[^UNI-117,0,00530048005500460046004C0045007C004F00460046]
Line 107 (16:20:50):: Command To [33015:1:1]-[REQUEST_REMOTE_UI_MODE?]
Line 108 (16:20:50):: Command From [33015:1:1]-[REQUEST_REMOTE_UI_MODE?]
Line 109 (16:20:50):: String To [5001:1:1]-[*I$00$03<<?$FD]
The virtual device is echoing back the commands sent to it, and I never see a string from the physical serial port. Huh? Also, when connected like this, I do not see the firmware version ever populate. As soon as I rewire the 232 cable so that it plugs directly into the adv. connx box, I start to see "string from 5001:1:1", but it looks like this: *I$00$03<<?$FD, which is again, an echo back from what the outgoing 5001 string was. At that point I see a fimware version along with the unicode commands going to the touchpanel. What gives? Does anyone have another version of the netlinx iport module they would like to share?
Ultimately the issue was with rs232 port 1 on my NI700. As soon as I moved the iPort to port 2, it started working. As I'm sure everyone knows, the default port in the iPort workspace is port 1. BTW, I tried using the rs232 plug on the advanced connection box as well as the port on the wallplate - both work. Here's the wierd thing - the port works. I can plug in another 2 way rs232 device (a relay box in this case), and it works fine. Go figure.