Touchpanel Rotation
yuri
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in AMX Hardware
Hi,
I know the new NXD-430 and NXD-500i are able to rotate the interface.
Is there any option like this for bigger touchpanels, like the NXD-700Vi or NXD-1000Vi?
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I know the new NXD-430 and NXD-500i are able to rotate the interface.
Is there any option like this for bigger touchpanels, like the NXD-700Vi or NXD-1000Vi?
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*heads back to his cave with his head hung low*
Certainly possible. Worth the effort? Your call.
There are some rotated fonts available
http://www.fontspace.com/fleisch/blocky-sideways
http://www.ffonts.net/Pf_veryverybadfont7-sideways.font
You would have to do some string manipultation to reverse all of your text and add carriage returns between each character to effectivle stack the letters on top of each other. A potential problem would be letters that extend below the baseline. Alignment>center middle might be able to compensate depending on the font.
If you don't have much (or any) variable text and you know all possible values of your var text you could make PNGs of all such text in a graphics prog and rotate them then index all of the PNGs in an array to make calling the right one relatively easy.
Not quick and easy but definitely possible.
It's a touchpanel for a music system, so i have ALOT of text fields that get dynamically updated...
If 16x9 was the ideal UI ratio why have apple products which are with a doubt the most prolific UI ever not using 16x9 or even 4x3. Well the iPhone is close 16x9 when flipped but originally is was fix the other way around (iPod).
You are right, i like to use the 12" touchpanels, which are still 4:3.
For almost all other solutions 16:9 works, but 4:3 would be WAY better
AMX product execs told us that 4x3 video screens aren't made by most suppliers anymore. AMX doesn't sell enough volume to commission custom internals.
Because almost everything in the initial design was based around list a based interface (as well as in the case of the iphone and ipod the requirement of being a physically practical form factor for fitting into a pocket). Given, if your producing an interface that revolves almost exclusively around list and textual based content a taller rather than wide aspect ratio is exactly what you are after as it reduces the number of saccades and fixations the user's eye must make in order to take in information presented and build a mental map of the interface state.
However, I'd argue in AMX world that list / textually dominant interfaces are the exception rather than the rule; even in domestic installs with heavy use of media servers etc media lists are only an interface component, rather than interface structure. For the most part, at least in AMX systems I've been exposed to, their core purpose is based around linear media, signal distribution, access, and/or environmental control and interaction. For these purposes having the ability to utilize interface designs that can incorporate full screen visual media at its original aspect ratio with a control layer superimposed is extremely useful in providing a decent user experience. Additionally increased horizontal screen real estate facilitates the creation of interfaces which require a lot of elements to exist at equal positions within a visual hierarchy (i.e. a lot of devices or operating modes, but not a lot of depth to each section of the interface) . It looks as though AMX is heading in the right direction with the hardware based rotation in the 430 and 500i and hopefully we'll see this pushed across to all panels in the future so we get the best of both worlds.
I'd agree w/ that but wouldn't 4x3 be the better compromise if what JN said wasn't true (I know it is) and the ability to flip is really ideal for hand helds where you can take advantage of either rotation to best present the needs of the current page. The smaller 430's, etc are good since you can lock them in a familar keypad style display orientation which for a screen that size and its designed purpose makes sense.
It might just be me but most times when laying out a new TP design I wish I had more height and less width when dealing with the 16x9 TPs unless it's the 17". Even though lists are a small part of the users experience when you need them I'd rather see 10 items at a time than 5 or 8. I preferred 20 but that ain't happening. I can always make those other pages for "their core purpose is based around linear media, signal distribution, access, and/or environmental control and interaction" work since these pages are general easy with more unused area than the list pages which are typically highly congested.
I am very curious to see what AMX has up their sleeve in regard to a new generation of AMX TPs. They have to have some plans, of course with high engineering costs, high overhead in general with comparitively low sales volume and of course UI's from 3rd parties (iPad) out there crushing the TPs sales potential and profitablity they've got to be making some tough decisioins and who knows where that will lead.
Since square is the new round how about some 4x4 screens w/o bezels. I think completely flush "mud in type" mounting rings would help in the custom resi market. Then you could justify the cost since you're getting a custom trimless appearence and that's the type of thing folks will spend money on. Like Lutron customer's don't tend to care about it's capabilites but if you can go from a 5 gang box to a 1 gang well heck that's worth spending $50k then. Likewise I think a sexy trimless prefectly flush in wall TP would be highly saleable. Speakers and mic might be an issue but I'll leave that to the engineers to figure out.
The new MVP-9000i also supports portrait mode.
This I like . . . but can we change it on the fly? When it's docked (in-wall), have it go it go portrait, but when it's undocked and in the hands of the user, go landscape? I'd hate to be stuck to one or the other 100% of the time.
No on-the-fly orientation change until a new OS and a new TPDesign... one project at a time, authored one way or the other. See how the 435 and 500 do it now. Same for iPhone and iPad, choose an orientation at authoring time.
That's how you typically hold an iPad...
P.S. - I should note that I am not getting down on you John or Joe, it's just tiring how every standard now is the Apple-standard. I keep hearing the masses say "I'll buy anything that has an Apple on it. I don't care if it even works or is overpriced."
Ok, like a Kindle or a Sony Book or a Palm Pilot or a Tablet PC. Actually, the iPad is like THEM.
Exactly..
Form factor wise it ain't anything new, however aspect ratio wise it's nice ^^.
I suppose if AMX did not design in this option we would get complaints whether the feature gets used or not. The key is a display with an 85 degree viewing angle in all directions.
You guys will appreciate not worrying about a viewing sweet spot, especially when docked in the wall.
I do get the concept of using it in portrait, I just never have so it seems very odd. I can definitely see portrait for in-wall, but not wireless. New idea I guess for A/V control for me that I'm just not wrapping my head around. Not that I think it's BAD, just weird.
The key would be to not have a lot of hard buttons. Like on the 5200 (though I have to admit most clients can't even use it because their fingers are simply too thick). And have a lot of it work on the panel itself. So via soft-keys.
I think it would be nice to have certain features. Which have grown to be standard in the smartphone industry. (especially the touchscreen smartphone industry). Imo that's the right way to move.
Look at phones by companies like apple, htc, google etc.
Those are high-quality phones with high-quality software!