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TPD4 & System Graphics

jjamesjjames Just another dudePosts: 2,906
So, TDP4 3.0.634 is out with new devices available to design for (MVP-9000i, iPad, iPhone and iPod Touch), and they re-did the way the external button editing is done for the R4s (though I thought this was done in the previous version, I may be wrong though.) So anyway - that's the low down.

Now here's my gripe: system graphics. We're on version 9 folks, so if you're heading back to a job to update an R4 because you need to add just one camera button (like I am doing now), be prepared to wait 20 minutes for it to transfer 1800+ system graphics. Can someone explain the differences of bottomMenuRounded15_tl_alpha.png in version 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9? I don't think AMX can, unless they're willing to admit that there isn't. Luckily, I've not had to make any changes to the system that has 10 of these. I wonder if AMX will reimburse us for the headache of having to wait 3 hours to transfer stuff - all because we need to go to version 7 (for the R4s.)

Don't get me started on how they default EVERYTHING in TPD4 whenever you upgrade / update it. I had TPD4 customized like a well-oiled machine . . . now it's junk again. Why can't they save things in the registry just like NS?

Comments

  • yuriyuri Junior Member Posts: 861
    Ah well, the 9000i is shipping yet, so no rush to update ;)

    Anyhow, the transfer takes long, but does it really take you THAT long? I'm guessing it takes around 10 minutes...
  • jjamesjjames Just another dude Posts: 2,906
    No - 20 minutes, unless my iPhone's stop watch is messed up.
  • viningvining X Member Posts: 4,368
    yuri wrote: »
    Ah well, the 9000i is shipping yet, so no rush to update ;)

    Anyhow, the transfer takes long, but does it really take you THAT long? I'm guessing it takes around 10 minutes...
    I was told the other day that the 9000i's are shipping. I also got the high power POE injectors in a couple days ago so I'm thinking my 9000's may be around the corner.

    Sending full panel graphics to a 5200 can take 10-15 minutes so I can easily see the R4 taking a day or two through 256kbps Zigbee gateway. :)
  • jjamesjjames Just another dude Posts: 2,906
    vining wrote: »
    Sending full panel graphics to a 5200 can take 10-15 minutes so I can easily see the R4 taking a day or two through 256kbps Zigbee gateway. :)
    Oh if only we could send through the Zigbee gateway . . . that'd be a blessing!
  • Spire_JeffSpire_Jeff Formerly Caffeinated Programmer Posts: 1,917
    Well, the R4s cannot be transferred to via ZigBee.... USB only, but they do take around 20 minutes with system graphics updates.

    Jeff
  • viningvining X Member Posts: 4,368
    jjames wrote: »
    Oh if only we could send through the Zigbee gateway . . . that'd be a blessing!

    Your right! What the heck was I thinking? :rolleyes:
  • Jorde_VJorde_V UX Scientist Posts: 393
    vining wrote: »
    Your right! What the heck was I thinking? :rolleyes:

    You were thinking? :o

    On a more serious note, what do you guys generally do at those times? I generally do other projects in the time it takes to upload the system (multiple panels really takes long, or multiple R4s.) or when I'm doing the firmware.

    However it looks weird when a client walks in and you're busy with a different project.
  • PhreaKPhreaK Posts: 966
    Nerieru wrote: »
    However it looks weird when a client walks in and you're busy with a different project.
    It looks worse if you're sitting there twiddling your thumbs...
  • viningvining X Member Posts: 4,368
    Nerieru wrote: »
    You were thinking? :o

    On a more serious note, what do you guys generally do at those times? I generally do other projects in the time it takes to upload the system (multiple panels really takes long, or multiple R4s.) or when I'm doing the firmware.

    However it looks weird when a client walks in and you're busy with a different project.

    Obviously I was thinking cuz I had to remember the data rate of the zigbee gateway. I just wasn't thinking correctly. :)

    Generally customers can't tell whose system you're working on but if your on the forums, checking your email or playing solitaire that's a different story. It's a lot worse when they sneak up behind you and catch you viewing some porno site. Hopefully your hands are above the table. :)
  • Jorde_VJorde_V UX Scientist Posts: 393
    vining wrote: »
    Obviously I was thinking cuz I had to remember the data rate of the zigbee gateway. I just wasn't thinking correctly. :)

    Auto-mode, it requires no thinking
    vining wrote: »
    Generally customers can't tell whose system you're working on but if your on the forums, checking your email or playing solitaire that's a different story. It's a lot worse when they sneak up behind you and catch you viewing some porno site. Hopefully your hands are above the table. :)

    I reckon you're talking from personal experience? :]

    @PhreaK, @vining

    Though I agree, people generally think they're getting what you're working on. 'Oh.. I didn't know we were getting that' kind of responses.
  • svTechsvTech Senior Programmer Posts: 44
    If you don't actually need the new system graphics, you can usually avoid that delay by sending the files through Studio or FileTransfer2. Of course, you have to close the file in TPD4, but, if you are loading very many panels, that would otherwise, require the wait, it can be worth it.

    Also, you only have to load the new system graphics once. After that, you are back to a speedy download of just any required changes.
  • jjamesjjames Just another dude Posts: 2,906
    svTech wrote: »
    Also, you only have to load the new system graphics once. After that, you are back to a speedy download of just any required changes.
    Until TPD4 is updated again, and then it wants to transfer 1800+ files again for no reason.
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