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Nest IP TStats

viningvining Posts: 4,368
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Has anyone got AMX controlling these? They have an app and I found a python module but no api. These are available at Home Depot and I personally find them to be best looking TSTat available for contemporary projects where the TStat has to remain in the room.

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  • trobertstroberts Posts: 228
    I was researching this a few months ago. If I am remembering correctly. There was a time when NEST was allowing third party control of their stats on a certain version, but for whatever reason in their latest versions they closed the port that allowed control of the stat. It is likely on a latest version stat that the python module would not function. Again I am relying on my memory which is not the best ;)
  • nickmnickm Posts: 152
    Slight correction. They've NEVER officially allowed third party control of their thermostats. A few people out there reverse-engineered their API. As soon as modules for AMX and others started to be made public, Nest modified their API to break these drivers.

    Nest has made it quite clear they have no intention of playing nice with custom integrators.
  • ColzieColzie Posts: 470
    Here is the Nest blog regarding this issue.
  • John NagyJohn Nagy Posts: 1,742
    NEST thermostats may be ineffective at their mission for the kind of (large) homes that use integration, as they -must- be in rooms where there is significant human presence to do their special thing. They operate by noticing you are there... and dynamically create a schedule that accommodates and anticipates repetitive presence. In large houses, the activity centers are less predictable, and the advantage is lost. In my home, the ideal spots to monitor to regulate the house temperature are rooms that have nearly no traffic. If you have pretty discrete zone control, and NEST each of them, it can work better. But you need to live in front of them for them to help you. This is obviously part of their prejudice against third party integration... fiddling with the controls from other parts of the house can only undermine its logic.
  • mpullinmpullin Posts: 949
    Colzie wrote: »
    Here is the Nest blog regarding this issue.
    This guy's argument for not integrating with home automation systems makes no sense! Does he even know what a home automation system does?
  • viningvining Posts: 4,368
    mpullin wrote: »
    This guy's argument for not integrating with home automation systems makes no sense! Does he even know what a home automation system does?

    He's completely bass ackwards with his logic, no body wants his t-stat to be anything but t-stats but he's completely missing that fact. He seems to think integrators what to use his t-stats to control the AV. I guess you can't expect logic from an ex logitech engineer since most of those guys clueless.


    I haven't read up on these yet but there has to be a way to turn off this occupency sensor logic crap but being from the logitech world maybe there isn't. I just want a slick looking t-stat that can commicate with no bells and whistles.

    For larger integrated jobs with remote sensors the Proliphix stats look pretty interesting.
  • ericmedleyericmedley Posts: 4,177
    I don't blame the technical people in these situations as much as I blame the sales/marketing people. They seem to always drive the bus when it comes down to it. These companies are all drinking the 'recurring revenue' Koolade nowadays. Therefore, they really push for closed systems that allow them to sell more recurring revenue products. That's why we see all these alarm companies selling HVAC and Home Automation packages. I've seen a few of them and they are simply awful. They're not cheap either. I was getting quite alarmed a few years back with the number of TStats and security alarm panels coming out that were all closed systems that talked back to a company web portal.
  • HARMAN_icraigieHARMAN_icraigie Posts: 660
    I've got a couple - work pretty good. Don't think I have actually touched or even looked at them in months. To me that sort of is the way HVAC should work - set it and forget it.
  • viningvining Posts: 4,368
    icraigie wrote: »
    I've got a couple - work pretty good. Don't think I have actually touched or even looked at them in months. To me that sort of is the way HVAC should work - set it and forget it.

    Integrated or stand alone?
  • HARMAN_icraigieHARMAN_icraigie Posts: 660
    vining wrote: »
    Integrated or stand alone?

    Nothing in my house is "integrated". I write code 50 hours a week for other people, the last thing I want it do is come home and right more code. The remotes on my coffee table are proudly on display for all to see :-)
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