Setup

bubba

Hello

What setup would give me the best possible sound and spl.

the system is a pair of yorkville performance y253 and community subs XLT 55. Is it better to use full range with sub or 2x3 stereo.

Appreciate the help.

Gadget

I'd set up a custom 2x3 in the wizard...I'll have to have more info to be more specific..
gadget

bubba

the y253 are full range cab 400w pgm. and the sub are 750 watts pgm power
all passive

freq response 60-19khz yorkville y253

freg response 40-150hz
recommended 100-150hz xlt55 sub

Is this what your asking for.

Gadget

No what amps ..
G

bubba

Ok

I have 3 amps crown ce 1000, qsc rmx 2450 and a crown macrotech 3600vz.

I'm thinking of running the yorkville on the ce 1000 and the xlts on the rmx

Gadget

well.. I couldn't get the info I wanted but I presume the Yorkies are not biampable.. I would make them so and triamp the setup with a 2X6... but thats me I recomend that you skip the ce 1ooo and RMX the yorkies and 3600 the T55... the cabs are 4 ohms so you can't really parallel them and the extra power will add definition and punch to the bass and snap to the tops. I would suggest trying a BW 18 @ 40 hz if you want to keep your subs from haveing stress problems, and a LR 24 @ 90 hz for the LPF Likewise with the Yorkies, a L/R 24 @ 90hz HPF would set you up fairly well.. there is no LPF on the hi outs...so that would be said to go to out...
Your going to have a problem with the gain structure with the Mac but do so for the other items in the system and then see where you end up... If when you plug the speakers back in the tops are loudest, turn them down if the subs are loudest turn them down... but set a nice balance between the two and when the system is full tilt boogie be conscious of the ODEP lights on the 3600.. if it starts to dim your running out of power in the power supply and you better back of a bit... if the lights go out your speakers will be right behind them and the smoke will be let out.. and that is a VERY bad thing to see...
Gadget

bubba

Thanks gadget. Unfortunately only one of the Yorkies is biamp. I haven't received the new crossover from Yorkville as yet for the other cab.

bubba

Gadget, Dra, kpippen

Thanks for your help. However I have change my yorkville speakers to the yorkville YX 215. My setup will now be 2x6. Should I swap the MA 3600VZ for RMX 2450. Would it be easy if I don't use the auto EQ and insert an eq before the DRPA and leave the GEQ flatten and make my adjustment from EQ. Inaddition, the I'm thinking of using a 2khz@LR24 and HPF 1HKZ@LR24. would this be effiecient

System Type 2-Way
Active or Passive 2-Way
Program Power (Watts) 600
Biampable Yes
Nominal Impedance (Ohms) 4
Sensitivity (dB @1Watt/1m) 99
Max SPL (dB) 126.7
Frequency Response (Hz +/- 3db) 55 - 20k
Crossover Frequency (Hz) 1800

Loudspeaker Type: Ported subwoofer
Operating Range: 40 Hz - 150 Hz
40 Hz - 150 Hz (+/-5dB)
Max Input Ratings: 300W continuous, 750W program
35 volts RMS, 77 volts momentary peak
Recommended Power Amplifier:
630W to 900W @ 4 Ohms
Sensitivity 1W/1m: 98 dB SPL (40 Hz - 160 Hz 1/3 octave bands)
Maximum Output: 123 dB SPL / 130 dB SPL (peak)
Nominal Impedance: 4 Ohms
Min Impedance: 4.4 Ohms @ 50 Hz
Nominal -6 dB Beamwidth:
360° H x 360° V
Axial Q / DI: 1 / 0, 40 Hz - 150 Hz
High Pass Output: 150 Hz (1/4 inch jack)
Recommended Signal Processing:
100 Hz - 150 Hz electronic crossover
35 Hz high pass filter
Drivers: (2) 15\", Ferrofluid-cooled

crown CE1000 for High
RMX 2450 for Mid
MA 3600VZ for Low


thanks

bubba

Gadget can you assist me on doing 2X6 setup I have only been using the system 2x4 with the suggested settings use recommended by you

Gadget

well... the Y series are discontinued...the spec sheet I found shows a 2way 2x15 and a 60 h X 30 v pattern, but says that the crossover is 3000, and 8000 hz...???????????????????????

Without some More info on the horn I will be hard pressed to give you any direction here...

I need to know what driver the speaker uses... make, and model, or something more definitive than what is published...

Gadget

bubba

I'm no longer using the y series but the YX 215 Here's spec.s

System Type 2-Way
Active or Passive 2-Way
Program Power (Watts) 600
Biampable Yes
Nominal Impedance (Ohms) 4
Sensitivity (dB @1Watt/1m) 99
Max SPL (dB) 126.7
Frequency Response (Hz +/- 3db) 55 - 20k
Crossover Frequency (Hz) 1800
Driver Configuration 2x15 inch / 1.4 inch
HF Driver(s) 1.4 inch Aluminum (1 inch Throat)
HF Horn Injection Molded ABS
HF Dispersion (°H x °V) 90 x 30
HF Protection CTLâ„¢
LF Driver(s) 2x15 inch Ceramic
LF Program Power(Watts) 600
Inputs - 1/4\" Jacks 2
Inputs - Speakon 4-pin 2
Corners Metal
Feet Plastic Glides
Bar Handles 2 (Side) 1 (Back)
Enclosure Materials 15mm (5/8inch) Plywood
Grille Custom Punched Black Perforated Metal
Covering / Finish Black Ozite
Dimensions (DWH xbackW, inches) 21.25 x 19.25 x 42 x 12
Dimensions (DWH xbackW, cm) 54 x 48.9 x 106.7 x 30.5
Weight (lbs/kg) 78 / 35.4
* Specifications subject to change without notice

The YX Series cabinets use injection molded 90 x 30 degree horns with 1-inch throat and 1.4-inch Celestion neodymium compression drivers

Gadget

Ok, well the answers are right there...

Good power for the subs...
BAD power for the mids...
plenty of power for the horns...

Since you run stereo... and seem to have 2 subs? that are 4 ohms.. we still need the preponderance of power on the subs... so...

SUBS
HPF 40 hz BW18
LPF 120hz LR24 (or the closest lower freq available on the DRPA to get our frequency split)

Yorkville Mids...
HPF again 120 hz LR24
LPF 1800 hz

Yorkville horns
HPF 1800hz @ LR24 ( a slight split may or may not be necessary here...)
LPF out...