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Driverack PA - Should I sell up?

Totally WiredTotally Wired Posts: 3
edited December 2007 in PA General Discussion
Hi all. I've been browsing this forum for a while as a guest and firstly can I say how good it is to see a friendly exchange of useful information.

I recently started hiring out my services to local bands in small venues. My FOH is the old HK Lucas system (2x8\" tops and 1x15\" sub). For what it (still) does for the money I'm still satisfied with the sound.

It struck me that I should invest in a driverack to get GEQ/PEQ/Anti-Feedback/RTA in one box. The product itself seems very useful and fairly user intuitive.

Upon purchase I ran my sound thru the DRPA as a Full Range (stereo in, stereo out) set-up to the sub on the Lucas which has its own internal crossovers/limiter etc.

After running Auto EQ a few times it seemed I was having trouble getting a decent vocal sound out front. It became quite thin and raspy although the rest of the band sound was pretty much fine. I read more on this forum and got into the fundamentals of Auto EQ and why it may not be suitable in my particular case.

I would actually like a little control over EQ when pinking. I understand the next model up has a \"live RTA\" feature (?) but at this time I cannot commit funds to that step up.

It seems HK Audio engineered their kit as a matched PA out of the box. That leads me to wonder how useful the DRPA will be in my case.

One part of me says \"okay, the speakers are matched as well as they can be for that price level...trust HK on that...ditch the DRPA and get another analog GEQ instead and tweak the response in the room by ear using GEQ and a CD of full range music I know\"

Problem is the original Lucas doesn't seem to have a clip led (!) which makes it fairly impossible to achieve proper gain structure - unless you guys have any ideas on that?

Another thought is that should I decide to upgrade in the future to a set-up of say passive tops and subs and seperate amps I may actually need the DRPA (although I'd prefer the facility to pink manually).

Sorry this is such a long post. Congrats if you've stayed awake this far!

Comments

  • kpippenkpippen Posts: 551
    Soooo,...what's your question?...

    If your thinking about replacing the DRPA then I recommend getting the DR260 for a real upgrade... There's no comparison between them...

    Kev
  • DraDra Posts: 3,777
    Since you are pinking, then I'll assume that you have the RTA mic. Have you set up a single stack outside and run the Auto EQ to \"flatten\" your speaker and tune the x-over, then transfer the GEQ info to the PEQ's and repeat until your happy? If not, do that.

    Regardless of what you decide to do, I wouldn't \"scrap\" the DRPA. You'll still have access to the GEQ, PEQ, AFS, etc...

    DRA
  • Uh...my question was \"do i really need the driverack for a basic active system that's supposedly optimally tuned by the manufacturer\"?

    As I said in my post, I ain't got the $$ to upgrade to 260 right now.

    The other question, non dbx related, was whether anyone knew of a technique of optimising gain on the speakers when the active amp (built into the sub) has no clip led.
  • DraDra Posts: 3,777
    For your gain question, hook up the sysytem and turn down the amp gain until it is quiet enough to get you by. My experience is that 11 to 1 o'clock is a good combo for quiet and output (headroom).

    DRA
  • kpippenkpippen Posts: 551
    The other question, non dbx related, was whether anyone knew of a technique of optimising gain on the speakers when the active amp (built into the sub) has no clip led.
    Is this what you have?...

    Brochure

    Manual

    If you have the HK Lucas "Max" system then you have one LED that turns green when you have a signal, yellow at limit, and red when protection... This means that yellow indicates clipping and red indicates shut down protection... Then I would use the yellow as the clip indicator and set the attenuator about 3dB below that point...

    Kev
  • GadgetGadget Posts: 4,915
    As I see it he is asking if the Driverack will add anything to a system thats \"supposedly\" optimized already? This is a question of \"If you can get what you need from the speaker system itself\" then you probably don't. But if you have any doubts, anything thats lacking, then you have the tools available with the DR to \"make it so\". The DRPA isn't as transparent as the 260 but if configured properly, you can get a heck of a sound improvement on many levels with the Driverack...only question is do you \"need it\". I find I do.

    I think you will find that the ability to manipulate the sound on a number of levels gives flexibility to fine tune a system that really doesn't offer any tuning except the basic volumes. \"It simply offers possibilities\"

    Happy holidays to all...Look for my holiday \"limerick\" on a new thread, I posted this on the PSW Live Audio Board in \"05\", and it caused quite a stir...

    Gadget
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