DRPA With Aux fed sub Question
drumbo
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Hello all. Fantastic resource for optimizing sound systems. My situation is not unique though I may think it. I play drums in a 3 piece power trio. I like to call it a \"microwave\" set up. I recently added a DRPA in to the mix and am happy with the results so far. I do have a few questions, answers or suggestions I can't seem to glean from all of the archives seen here.
To cut to the chase:
Bass, Guitar & Drums 2 vocals.
Allen & Heath WZ3 16 channel mixer
2-Mackie SW1801 Powered subs run mono
2-JBL Eon G2 Powered 15\" w/horn set on poles atop of subs run stereo
2-JBL Eon 10\"w/horn for vocal \"spots\"
Prior to the driverack I opted to run with the \"aux fed\" Sub feature on the Allen & Heath. I did this to \"bump\" the bass guitar & kick drum without it getting all jiggity in the whole system and to have control of the instruments hitting the subs. The A & H has good EQ and the sub bass is simple and adds the necessity of a fader to drive the subs. Necessity IS the mother of invention.
My Question(s): What is the best configuration here? Would just a full range output w/ the sub bass from my mixer be the most efficient? Or as I describe below stereo full range w/ mono sub then re-patch the sub to the aux feed back on the mixer?
Or??What if.... scratch the stereo full range and run mono Could I run the Aux feed (sub) into the L side of DRPA and the Mono signal to the R? Then output mono full range and mono sub? could it would it work like this? what would be the advantages?
I don't wish to add complications...remember to keep it simple I am a drummer.
my experience so far:
When I first \"pinked\" a small venue I had the subs out from the low & the Eons outputted from the high outs of the DRPA. This was done custom mono sub w/Eon G2 profiles. Now to utilize the aux feed sub, I had to unplug the low output and patch it back to the mixer....Are you seeing my dilemma?
I did this and it was an improvement on our usual sound...I played my ipod and it sounded pure kickass. I saved the setting and have gone back to it as a reference. I have not checked crossover or high pass so am clueless as to where those points lie. Plus i just scrolled through the other menu's afs eq in the wizard and did not change anything.
I tried pinking again in a different room and the resulting sound was wimpy and almost dissappointing. I did not take notes but I profiled it to what equipment I have. So I dialed up my first \"patch\" and it sounded great again!
Without a soundman we get a fat punchy sound and set up & tear down is rediculously fast...like under an hour instruments and all. Less is more.
any suggestions will be appreciated.
To cut to the chase:
Bass, Guitar & Drums 2 vocals.
Allen & Heath WZ3 16 channel mixer
2-Mackie SW1801 Powered subs run mono
2-JBL Eon G2 Powered 15\" w/horn set on poles atop of subs run stereo
2-JBL Eon 10\"w/horn for vocal \"spots\"
Prior to the driverack I opted to run with the \"aux fed\" Sub feature on the Allen & Heath. I did this to \"bump\" the bass guitar & kick drum without it getting all jiggity in the whole system and to have control of the instruments hitting the subs. The A & H has good EQ and the sub bass is simple and adds the necessity of a fader to drive the subs. Necessity IS the mother of invention.
My Question(s): What is the best configuration here? Would just a full range output w/ the sub bass from my mixer be the most efficient? Or as I describe below stereo full range w/ mono sub then re-patch the sub to the aux feed back on the mixer?
Or??What if.... scratch the stereo full range and run mono Could I run the Aux feed (sub) into the L side of DRPA and the Mono signal to the R? Then output mono full range and mono sub? could it would it work like this? what would be the advantages?
I don't wish to add complications...remember to keep it simple I am a drummer.
my experience so far:
When I first \"pinked\" a small venue I had the subs out from the low & the Eons outputted from the high outs of the DRPA. This was done custom mono sub w/Eon G2 profiles. Now to utilize the aux feed sub, I had to unplug the low output and patch it back to the mixer....Are you seeing my dilemma?
I did this and it was an improvement on our usual sound...I played my ipod and it sounded pure kickass. I saved the setting and have gone back to it as a reference. I have not checked crossover or high pass so am clueless as to where those points lie. Plus i just scrolled through the other menu's afs eq in the wizard and did not change anything.
I tried pinking again in a different room and the resulting sound was wimpy and almost dissappointing. I did not take notes but I profiled it to what equipment I have. So I dialed up my first \"patch\" and it sounded great again!
Without a soundman we get a fat punchy sound and set up & tear down is rediculously fast...like under an hour instruments and all. Less is more.
any suggestions will be appreciated.
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Much help and advise is noted. I will keep on trying different things and hopefully share how I approach this situation.
Merry Christmas!
Drumbo