Yorkville Unity U15P tunings

Axel

Hi,

New to forum but not new to using the DriveRack PA.

I have Yorkville Unity Series U15P
http://yorkville.com/products.asp?type=29&cat=38&id=346

Would like some advise on how to set these up as stand alones....no subs.

Any suggestions for tunings?

Gadget

Are you using them fullrange? That is the first of many questions... If you had read the READ ME FIRST BEFORE POSTING you would know what were looking for...
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=959
We need all your system info... Mixer, amps what you intend to do with your system...
Gadget

Dra

Since the unpowered version has a dedicated processor available, sounds extremely likely that the your powered version has all the processing needed. Your own testing could reveal some further needs that might need PEQ assistance.

DRA

Axel

Gadget wrote:

Are you using them fullrange? That is the first of many questions... If you had read the READ ME FIRST BEFORE POSTING you would know what were looking for...

We need all your system info... Mixer, amps what you intend to do with your system...
Gadget

Yes, read it prior to post....some good info. Nonetheless:

Mixer Allen Heath Mix Wiz 16:2
U15P are powered
Using them full range

(Aside note: These U15P's have a terrible buzz emanating from the fans in the back (suggestions for replacements)....are powered boxes typically noisy?)

Problem I am having is setting them up to sound decent....doh! That is, using the auto eq is not giving any usable results. Yes, have read and tried the various suggestions regarding the indoor auto eq method and several others from the posts here in. Was wondering if with these cabinets, being rather unique in design, there might be a better way to auto eq as the "Unityâ„¢ horn combines a single 1" throat with a 1.75â€? diaphragm high frequency compression driver alongside three 5â€? ceramic magnet midrange drivers on a single, highly efficient conical horn. This combines high and mid frequency energy in a single 60º x 60º conical horn that produces frequencies from 300Hz to 20kHz upper horn. Under this horn is the 800 watt 15" Neodymium magnet woofer with 3" voicecoil.

Should I stack these one on top of the other? Pole mounts not viable in this particular room, nor suspending from cieling.

Given this configuration, where does one aim the RTA mic is my question? Results so far not impressive...actually quite horrible....aiming at floor 90 1/8" directly in line, aiming at roof, aiming right between the horn and 15, at four feet, ....etc. What might I try, besides inviting Tom Danley over for a Canadian brew?

Appreciate the responses...even any burns...(Chuckle).

Dra

I have heard nothing but great things about the Unity line. Are these new? Do all of the fans buzz / rattle? Have you called Yorkville?

Can we assume that you are auto-EQing the venue? Are you doing it and leaving it as is? If so, you can't do that except for a very small band in the mid range. How do they sound straight from the mixer? Outside?

DRA

Gadget

I have Yorkville Unity Series U15P

:? DOH :? I have to slow down a bit when I read these ....
Ok more info on what your experiencing, and on the setup
Bad LOW frequency response? (those are known to not have a lot below about 100hz)

bad mid/hi...yes were familiar with the Danley designs..and mid high clarity/smoothness is the hallmark of his designs.

Are you using the -0- flat preset, and only one speaker at a time...?

Where do you typically place the mic (distance) or have you tried multiple locations... including on axis 8 feet out aimed mid speaker...

Can you provide a screen shot of the auto eq post process...

What measurement mic are you using.. have you verified that IT isn't the problem...

No flamejobs hereunless you REALLY deserve it...

Any and all pertinent info is necessary including all processor modules used and settings in order to help straiten this out..

G

Axel

Gadget wrote:

Are you using the -0- flat preset, and only one speaker at a time...?

Tried flat preset and Preset A Mostly both speakers at a time...so many tries. I have them stacked...this is in my rehearsal studio (uhh, living room)....no room to put them anywhere except stacked.

Where do you typically place the mic (distance) or have you tried multiple locations... including on axis 8 feet out aimed mid speaker...

At floor 90 degrees 1/4 inch from floor, at ceiling 90 degrees, on axis 8 feet out and four feet out, at mid horn...and of course I've tried it facing towards mecca.

Can you provide a screen shot of the auto eq post process...

Not possible, however generally boosting between 2 and 7 kHz +7db to +12dB and oddly cutting at 60 -80 Hz -8db. Leaving it sounding quite ...well you know, bottomless and harsh.

What measurement mic are you using.. have you verified that IT isn't the problem...

DBX RTA mic ... the one suggested to be used with the DRPA...sorry mic has no model number on it.

No flamejobs hereunless you REALLY deserve it...

Oh, but flaming makes such an interesting read for the audience.

Thanks. I will as well try running straight from the mixer....but would that not simply be running through the DRPA without any EQ or PEQ?

Gadget

No what Dra means is how do they sound WITHOUT the DRPA? Have you tried just 1 speaker, unless you invert the other U15 so the horns are together then the different arrival times could cause the things you are experiencing (Cancellations/modes) and in the case of the low frequencies... standing waves

Have you tried the new indoor method?

Try one speaker, up against the wall with the mic 5 feet out, do the below 170hz by ear... this should maybe explain what your experiencing:
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