PA+ Editor

djock12

Does anyone know if there a graphical editor that will allow a person to fine tune a custom setting for the pa+ or is this just something that cannot be done?

Dra

djock12 wrote:

Does anyone know if there a graphical editor that will allow a person to fine tune a custom setting for the pa+ or is this just something that cannot be done?

What are you wanting to do?

DRA

djock12

I am trying to edit a custom setting that I have for my peavey setup.

Gadget

There is NOT GOING TO BE a GUI of the DRPA+, BUT you can provide your system specs and we can walk you through it. here is some reading if you'd like to learn more(not knowing what your level of expertise is):

viewtopic.php?f=61&t=959

and here lots of help:
viewforum.php?f=60
including:
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1196
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1339

But the key here is INFORMATION... we need it all..

Gadget

djock12

Gadget wrote:

There is NOT GOING TO BE a GUI of the DRPA+, BUT you can provide your system specs and we can walk you through it. here is some reading if you'd like to learn more(not knowing what your levee of expertise is):

In terms of expertise, I am a newbie with the driverack pa+. i have used it about 6 times with the help of you guys here. I am trying to "fine tune" the sound of my speakers (peavey sp2 and sp218) similar to the config that is in peaveys vsx26 tuning spec. I have the crossover points and the filters set. I am just having difficulties tuning the sound. I don't have the rta mic yet so I am just going by ear and by what I am reading in the forums. I have read the "read me first" documents. I am still learning though, it is quite a bit of info. I was just wondering if the .dwp files had an editor where i could actually see what the settings were. (Hope that makes sense)

Gadget

Sure, but I can tell you right now it will be a waste of time... Peavey refuses to provide dbx with tunings for their speakers.. even realistic HPF/LPF settings (and understandably, they have their own processors to sell) But if you want to, download the GUI for the 200 series and load your setup in the wizard, actually never mind, I just did and the SP speakers aren't in there any way..

What does the VSX offer tuning wise?
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djock12

Gadget wrote:

Sure, but I can tell you right now it will be a waste of time... Peavey refuses to provide dbx with tunings for their speakers

Ok, now I understand.

Gadget

The measurement mic will make all the differences here. If you provide all the system info and what the VSX settings are, we can work up a good base setting, then do the auto eq and set the system flat and you'll be styling..
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djock12

Ok, I'll post that info in a few. Thanks

djock12

ok, here is a sample two way config:
low corner freq 20hz low corner alignment flat
upper corner freq 1000hz upper corner alignment LR24
gain 0db

How might this be interpreted by the driverack? Are these considered LP/HPF?

Gadget

That config is for the SP-2? I don't think so... And it sure isn't for an SP-2/ SP118 rig...that is for a bi-amp top, that has either a 22XT, with a 1.75" diaphragm, or a 22RX driver with a 2" diaphragm both on a 1" exit Constant directivity 90x40 horn The low frequency cutoff of that horn is likely around 1000 hz. The crossover on an SP 2 has NEVER been lower than 1800hz and 3dB down point is 54 hz...(here we would use a BW 18-24 filter to protect the woofer in a bi-amp top config) Depending on the amount of power applied the xover point to horn would be (on the latest sp-2) 1800 hz and I would suggest 1800 hz (that's what I use... I have the updated P audio Neo drivers in mine). If you have the 22XT drivers you could use the 1800 hz as well, but 1950 hz would be better. That looks like a speaker that has the 44xt driver.

For your rig you need to (depending on how much power you have) set an HPF for the sub no lower than 45hz BW18 and an LPF of 100-120 hz LR24 (power dependent), set the tops to the same frequency as that of the sub with an LR24 filter type

The HPF is the LOWEST frequency we want any given transducer to reproduce ...for the safety of the driver...the LPF is the highest frequency we want a given transducer to reproduce. The DRPA doesn't have an LPF on the high outs.

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djock12

Thanks for the info, I am not sure of the drivers that I have. I need to do a bit more research. Thanks for the clarification on hpf vs lpf. Would a bi-amp top have the same settings as running the speaker in a two-way config?

Gadget

not usually... as a 2 way USUALLY describes a "tops/subs" configuration, and a bi-amp setup usually denotes a "fullrange 2 way (woofer and horn) speaker" being driven actively(not using the internal crossover) with 2 amp channels.

However, it's simply a matter of "syntax" and the only difference being the HPF/LPF points...

as for research... what is the model # or how old are the SP-2's? they haven't used the 22XT in the SP-2 for 4-5 years now, and if they are the black face ones they are most likely the RX drivers, and if there is any doubt just use the 1950hz xover point...

Did you read this:
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1080
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djock12

I have the newer ones with the hammertex coating and the black metal grill.

Gadget

So the 1800hz HPF/LPF would be fine then...

djock12

thanks Gadget!