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Help I need some help fast!! xover questions!

premier1premier1 Posts: 119
edited August 2010 in PA General Discussion
Please help! I just purchased the Driverack PA +. Having traded in my other gear to get this I am a bit stumped, this is only because I have a show tommorow night and this has to be done fast and I dont have the time right now to read everything I need to lol ! My main issue is where to set the crossover points?? Just for the show for now. I am using two Tapco 6915 passive tops and Two Peavey passive 118 subs, I have two power amps, one for the tops one for the subs both amps are qsc gx-5 just for some info, My problem is that once I get my kick drum sounding killer !! Then the vocals dont sound as good?? and vice versa..Its driving me nuts with time running out here lol..Our singer likes alot of highs in her vocals, I also do to apoint, I love the click sound but not to much and overall a nice tight sounding kick..Also should I mess around with the delay settings for now? or leave them alone..The venue we are at tommorow night is a small nightclub with a capacity of 150 but I do like to punch them in the cheast with kick, with all this in mind can someone give me a fast setup to use just for this gig and then I will have the time to go though everything the right way, should I leave the compressor section off for now? all that stuff! Thanks so much guys! I promise to read the faq section and everything else as soon as I have the time but get me going for now! Thanks!! Bill :mrgreen:

Comments

  • GadgetGadget Posts: 4,915
    No Worries dude!

    Set up a 2x3 (mono sum subs) or 2x4 in the wizard using all custom or you can insert the actual product if it's listed.. matters not

    load that preset by pressing the encoder

    press the [preset] button ignoring the auto level for now. (this is like a home key)

    press the [xover] button note that the upper left of the display has an HL...that is corresponding to the hi and low outputs (there isn't a M unless you select a 3 way system)

    Hilight the "L" by successive presses of the xover button

    Were working on the subs now...set the HPF @45hz BW18
    Set the LPF @ 100hz LR24

    toggle to the H and select the HPF and set it @100hz LR24

    save the preset by 3 successive presses of the [store] button. You will need to:
    name the preset
    select a location for the preset (which preset are you going to overwrite)
    verify that you want to overwrite that preset.

    Now your at the "balance the outputs" point..you could... (if you have the measurement mic) go back and do the auto level phase, OR simply play some good fullrange music and manually turn down the louder amp

    HOWEVER you really should do a gain structure.. as per this post...
    viewtopic.php?f=61&t=959

    it really only takes a few minutes to read the post and do the gain structure but the benefits are HUGE.
    then if you have the measurement mic do the auto eq it makes a huge difference!
    Gadget
  • premier1premier1 Posts: 119
    Thank you so much! I am going to go try all this now and will post beck results1 I really apreciate the help! And yes I do have the RTA Mic ! Ok will post back tonight and thanks Gadget! For my first post you were very helpfull !

    Bill :mrgreen:
  • premier1premier1 Posts: 119
    ok I used the setting you mention I am a bit confused as the the two seeting for the low and only one for the highs? Non the less the drum sounds very punchy now and to vocal mic sounds very good also! so I am going to leave those settings where you suggested, they seem to work well... Do you suggest leaving the delay feature alone for now? or is there a genral setting to use as a starting point? Thanks again, those settings work well !
  • GadgetGadget Posts: 4,915
    You really only have 10 feet of delay at your disposal.. you can invert the sub, and play a tone in the crossover frequency (100hz) and listen for a null..

    There is no HPF in the High outs..that is why I posted none...

    G
  • premier1premier1 Posts: 119
    Thought I would share that My gig went very well last night! and the DRPA performed very well, the only thing I did between one set was bring the low crossover point up just abit as it was just a little to rumbly other than that what a fantastic product! I am very happy, we had no feedback issues, everything was whisper quiet evenm without muting the mixer just a great product, I cant wait to dig in more, thanks again for your help!
  • GadgetGadget Posts: 4,915
    Great, welcome to the fold...you HAVE eliminated the AFS unit right?

    G
  • premier1premier1 Posts: 119
    No Gadget, I use the dBX AFS for my monitors only and the mains I used the one in the drpa, if I can eliminate I would but as you know the monitors are the worst problem I have regarding feedback and that afs unit is awesome, by the end of the night I had almost all the red lights on and supressing as this band like many tends to get louder and louder as the night goes on and I have to keep pushing up the gain on the monitors, but the mains were fine and what was in the drpa was enough for that. I use the mon out on the board into the afs and out into the power amp for the monitors seprate from everything else. Evereyone who had seen us before commented on how the sound overall was much better last night
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