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Bi-Amp LA460's Amp question

BTproductionsBTproductions Posts: 86
I'm gonna get a UX8800 processor cause I need two processors now having 2 systems and needing to do 2 rooms at a time so the UX8800 I'm gonna use with my 4 460's and since the 460's have low power requirements for the mid/highs I can afford to bi-amp them at this time also. I'm thinking the QSC RMX1450 would be a good choice @ 400-450w @ 4ohms where at least 300w is required. I use a PLX3602 on them fullrange now so it will become the low amp. I also had this idea... Possibly crazy. Of using a Bryston 4B??? Coming from more of a home audio background I know Bryston makes some incredible stuff. I've never gotten to actually hear one of their amps and I know this isn't the proper application for one but I'm intrigued if it would actually make a huge difference in sound quality. Not intrigued enough to buy both and see for myself tho lol. Thoughts???

Smaart seminar was crazy btw. Alot that didn't apply to me talking about delay/side/center fill systems ect but was cool to learn about and I know just enough to follow the lectiure but got a bit beyond me at times. Well worth it and I can't wait to get an interface and start using it and tune in my system with PEQ's instead of a GEQ.

Thanks -Mark

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  • DennisDennis Posts: 801
    I'm gonna get a UX8800 processor cause I need two processors now having 2 systems and needing to do 2 rooms at a time so the UX8800 I'm gonna use with my 4 460's and since the 460's have low power requirements for the mid/highs I can afford to bi-amp them at this time also. I'm thinking the QSC RMX1450 would be a good choice @ 400-450w @ 4ohms where at least 300w is required. I use a PLX3602 on them fullrange now so it will become the low amp. I also had this idea... Possibly crazy. Of using a Bryston 4B??? Coming from more of a home audio background I know Bryston makes some incredible stuff. I've never gotten to actually hear one of their amps and I know this isn't the proper application for one but I'm intrigued if it would actually make a huge difference in sound quality. Not intrigued enough to buy both and see for myself tho lol. Thoughts???

    Smaart seminar was crazy btw. Alot that didn't apply to me talking about delay/side/center fill systems ect but was cool to learn about and I know just enough to follow the lectiure but got a bit beyond me at times. Well worth it and I can't wait to get an interface and start using it and tune in my system with PEQ's instead of a GEQ.

    Thanks -Mark

    The 4B is old and heavy. If you already owned one, I would say lets try it but if you have to buy it I would say buy current technology. You could possibly purchase amps with DSP built in instead of the UX8800 (but I'm sure you already have your mind made up about it)

    Re SMAART....What you feel don't apply to you today will apply to you in the future. And even with the style of system you currently have, it is typical to time align subs to mid/hi cabinets using a Transfer Function. On a 2 way mid/hi cab, you have to time align the horn to the woofer. Delay does apply to you. You learned a lot of stuff at the seminar...now you have to use it or lose it.

    Dennis
  • GadgetGadget Posts: 4,915
    Another problem with the Bryston might be input sensitivity... NON pro level -10 input...this is less of a problem in home stereo systems where the runs are short, and the cables are generally esoteric, in high end systems... Pro audio uses a more robust +4signal to push the noise floor much lower...yes, most pro audio setups are capable of driving them just fine, but with such a low signal level noise could get injected in high noise environs like the casinos, or performance venues with crappy power....

    Also it takes a pretty phenomenal frequency response and balanced sound not usually associated with sound reinforcement equipment, although the systems of today are moving inexorably to emulate point source monitoring systems.. Danley sound comes to mind, with the Jericho Horn , and Genesis horns. Multi driver horns that can produce studio quality (point source) sound at 10 feet or 1000 feet or more!

    For example, I have a couple of reference systems that have exotic HF and LF technologies that allow me to discern if I can actually hear a difference in cables, or amps, or preamp sources. I have yet to be able to justify the difference in a good quality cable and an esoteric audio cable, but the difference in a soild state and tube amp, or something like the Carver Silver 7 amp are quite noticeable. Hear the difference in a reference CD player, or high end turntable and cartridge with a mobile fidelity sound labs recording on a system like the SRX, or EAW, or L Acoustics/ or D&B audiotechnik sound reinforcement system.. no way...but then most HF horns weren't meant for esoteric audio...but for projection. They are getting closer, but even with the Ribbon tweeters they just aren't capable of that point source sound (my opinion)...

    but it is pretty much universally accepted that horn loaded systems just didn't equal point source systems like those in high end studio's (as I said the notable exception is Danley sound labs synergy horns).

    Gadget
  • Cool. I seem to be on the right track. :D
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