ACE section still around?
DHawthorne
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I finally got around to renewing my ACE certification, but I don't see an ACE section in the forums. Does it still exist, or do I need to make a call for access again?
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Me too ! How to access ACE forum ?
Who spilled the beans???
There will definitely be nudity and free beer. And pizza. So there. :P
I’m bound to have nightmares now. (I was going to say “Stop the world I want to get off.” but that sure didn’t sound right.)
That's where I was, but I just did the challenge test, which was a heck of a lot easier than taking classes and such ... and after a dozen years working with the stuff, that wasn't much of a big deal either.
How much time did you spend on the challenge practicals? Work should be slowing down enough in the next month or so that I might be able to carve out the time get ACE back.
The online test was maybe 10 minutes. The programming practical was a grand total of 24 hours ... mostly in 1-2 hour chunks between other things. I might add I could have done it in like 4 hours if the project was set up like my typical job ... I spent a lot of time saying to myself, "why would they want to do that?
Thanks. That sounds pretty close to what I was expecting.
Did you just do the ACE programmer or did you do Installer and Designer as well?
I just did programmer. I have others in the shop with the other certifications, and was cramming it in year-end.
AMX Australia do not allow people to take a challenge test. You must attend Programmer II (I checked yesterday).
They can keep their ACE certification. I've been doing this for a number of years so I'm unlikely to learn much from PII and I do not have the time to waste a couple of days in a classroom not learning anything.
We have programmers in the organisation who are ACE certified, so the company can boast this certification on tender submissions. The only reason I want it is to access the ACE section of the forums - I can't see any other benefit.
I'll continue to put new programming staff through ACE Programmer, but a number of ACE programmers I've encountered over here have had a sub-par level of knowledge and been pretty poor at what they do so the certification doesn't hold enough weight for me to warrant pursuing it for myself.
What you didnt get a coffee mug?
I did not receive a coffe mug
This place is a joke now.
I can't help but think that the BS program and last years practical exam requirement forced alot of folks out that had been ACE certified. Virtually making being an "ACE" meaningless since the old timers, the guys with all the experience let their qualification lapse. If the guys that know what they're doing aren't ACE and the newbies are then what meaning does being an "ACE" have.
A few month ago my rep who is now gone told me that I was the only fully ace certified dealer in New England and at first I thought wow, I'm hot $hit but them thought wow, that's pathetic, an electrical contractor is the only fully certified dealer in New England. That doesn't say much about AMX or the ACE program.
By forcing out the experienced guys who didn't feel like jumping through hoops just for the amusement of the suits they made ACE meaningless so why maintain the forum.
A very nice 3,000th post!
Whatever else might be said about AMX and it's policies, they sure do have good people.
I've been an AMX programmer for 10 years and have been ACE certified..that is until they brought in the re-certification requirement. Some of my friends who are also programmers have never had the request to re certify and are still shown as being ACE certified, even though they qualified at the same time as me!
I really don't have the time, or energy, to keep re-certifying especially as 30-40% of my jobs are putting right other programmers jobs that don't work!
In the UK, where i'm based I really don't see how it improves by ability to get work. I don't advertise and all my work is by word of mouth.....I was also one of the VIP programmers but that was lost when my ACE certification lapsed.
If someone from AMX can show me that its going to improve my life, considerably, I'll happily re-certify! The only thing it's stopped me doing so far was attending a course on DUET which I really wanted to do.
It strike me that there is no reward for experience, which is a shame, since there are lots of us out there that have A LOT of experience and the request to spend time re-taking exams that you would give to a newbie, is driving people away.
I, personally, think that it has been approached in the wrong way. I think that there should be some benefit to being ACE certified and I see none (or should that be 'dead people'), it's like having a budweiser bottle top as a qualification badge - sorry maybe thats a bit harsh but the people who are maintaining the brand quality, don't really get recognition...
I'm now 12" shorter now I've stepped off of my soap box!
Like I said, the time requirement for renewal is not onerous at all...
Its got nothing to do with what other people do....it was 'my opinion'. As a freelance programmer, recertifying ACE every year or two years is a bit ridiculous. Freelancers get more experience than employed programmers as we get 'dropped in' at the deep end in a lot of projects. As a company, you probably get a benefit of being able to advertise that you have ACE certified programmers. However, I spend a lot of time putting right stuff done by so called 'ACE' certified programmers, so I'm not convinced that it does what it should!
I'm not saying that ACE is a bad thing, I'm just saying that when you've qualified once...you qualified! You pass your driving test once, they bring out new road signs, but you don't have to retake your test!
Its a difference of opinion and I'm happy with mine!!
Duncan