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MVP-9000i bargraph problem

a_riot42a_riot42 Posts: 1,624
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I was noticing something odd with bargraphs with the MVP-9000i firmware and am wondering if anyone else is seeing this as well. Typically when using a bargraph with levels 0-99, as long as the bargraph is wider than 100 pixels, you will get every level as you drag your finger across the bargraph. With the TPC/iPad, I get every level from 0-99. But with the MVP-9000i I am only seeing a few levels with large intervals inbetween. Not sure if its the panel I have or the firmware or what might be causing this. Here are examples of the levels being created:

Here are the levels created with the iPad/TPC on a bargraph 115 pixels wide with levels 0-99, dragging my finger slowly across the bargraph.

Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 1
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 2
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 3
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 4
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 5
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 6
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 7
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 8
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 9
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 10
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 11
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 12
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 13
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 14
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 15
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 16
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 17
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 18
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 19
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 20
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 21
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 22
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 23
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 24
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 25
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 26
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 27
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 28
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 29
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 30
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 31
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 32
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 33
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 34
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 35
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 36
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 37
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 38
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 39
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 40
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 41
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 42
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 43
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 44
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 45
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 46
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 47
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 48
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 49
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 50
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 51
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 52
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 53
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 54
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 55
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 56
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 57
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 58
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 59
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 60
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 61
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 62
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 63
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 64
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 65
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 66
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 67
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 68
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 69
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 70
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 71
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 72
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 73
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 74
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 75
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 76
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 77
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 78
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 79
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 80
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 81
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 82
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 83
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 84
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 85
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 86
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 87
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 88
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 89
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 90
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 91
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 92
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 93
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 94
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 95
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 96
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 97
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 98
Level Value From [11001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 99


Here are the levels created with the MVP-9000i on a bargraph 115 pixels wide levels 0-99 dragging my finger slowly across the bargraph.

Level Value From [10001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 12
Level Value From [10001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 22
Level Value From [10001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 34
Level Value From [10001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 46
Level Value From [10001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 58
Level Value From [10001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 69
Level Value From [10001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 81
Level Value From [10001:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 85

Some of these jumps have intervals of 12 levels between them! What the heck is going on here? If I stretch out the bargraph the entire width of the panel, 800 pixels, its a bit better but not a lot. I let AMX konw about it, but they don't consider it a bug.
Paul

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    Jimweir192Jimweir192 Posts: 502
    Are the gesture options on? Could be trying to interpret this movement as a swipe??
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    nicholasjamesnicholasjames Posts: 154
    Touchscreen Performance

    I've saw this myself and at one point and I did a little researching and testing to find out why. AMX tech support is telling you the truth when they say this problem is not a bug. This issue has to do with the actual touch "resolution" in relation to the resolution your bargraph needs to register a change.

    Most touchscreens register a touch based on the difference between the activated points on it's surface. Even if you have huge fingers and you manage to mash 50 pixels at a time, the average point between them is where the touch occurs. For a fun example, use two fingers to simultaneously touch your panel an equal distance from either side of a button and you'll find that button registers as touched.

    Unfortunately, this seriously cuts down on how well a panel can recognize a difference from one point to another when you slide your finger. In my testing 4 pixels is the limit of the resolution for a single press, which makes sense when you're dividing the difference between two points, and you need an X and Y coordinate.

    So, with your 115 pixel wide bargraph with a range of 0-99, your value increments by 1.15 with each pixel: 115 pixels / 100 (range of 99 + 1 more to register the 0). So when you moved far enough into the bargraph to register that you are in it, your value is incrementing by at least 4.6 (1.15 * 4 pixel limit). Now, move far enough to register a change and you're at a minimum of 9.2, but since we humans don't have 4-pixel wide fingers, you've probably drifted into the next set, placing you at 13.8, and the average between 13.8 and 9.2 is 11.5 which (if you're following along at home, we're gonna round up) equals your initial 12.

    There's definitely some rounding and averaging in there I'm missing, especially since your panel's size plays into it as well. For example, the NXT-1200 I'm using has 800 pixels across it's 247.44 mm, while the MVP-9000, has the same 800 pixels across 197mm. The MVP-9000 has more pixels in the same space, so dragging on your panel goes "farther" than a drag on mine. Interestingly enough, the MVP has less pixels vertically. Try turning your bargraph vertically and see what values you get then...

    Of course, most of AMX's touchpanels (lovely as they are) still lag behind whatever technology it is that makes the iPad screens so magical. I heard it involved powdered unicorn horn or something. In any case, I'll lay money that your iPad will always give you far finer control any day of the week.


    Hope this has been informative. It has been for me!
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    a_riot42a_riot42 Posts: 1,624
    Jimweir192 wrote: »
    Are the gesture options on? Could be trying to interpret this movement as a swipe??

    I didn't think there was a way to turn gestures off. If you know of a way, please let me know, since its slows down feedback considerably. I see in TPD on the external controls page there are the gesture icons and they can be disabled in the properties but that doesn't seem to disable the delay when hitting buttons.
    Paul
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    a_riot42a_riot42 Posts: 1,624
    nicholasjames wrote: »
    I've saw this myself and at one point and I did a little researching and testing to find out why. AMX tech support is telling you the truth when they say this problem is not a bug. This issue has to do with the actual touch "resolution" in relation to the resolution your bargraph needs to register a change.

    Yes that would be the conventional wisdom, however, I am not seeing this on the MVP-5200is or the 8400's, at least not to nearly the same degree. I just tried it with a 5200 and this is the result from a bargraph 115 pixels wide but with 221 levels.



    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 3
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 5
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 15
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 19
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 24
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 11
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 21
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 24
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 30
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 32
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 28
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 40
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 24
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 36
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 42
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 46
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 36
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 46
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 49
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 44
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 53
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 65
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 57
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 44
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 55
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 65
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 76
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 67
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 71
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 74
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 67
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 78
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 73
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 88
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 92
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 94
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 98
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 101
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 103
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 111
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 103
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 107
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 124
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 115
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 111
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 115
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 119
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 126
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 130
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 124
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 126
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 130
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 126
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 132
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 138
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 146
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 140
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 136
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 144
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 147
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 144
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 149
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 153
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 161
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 159
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 155
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 159
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 167
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 159
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 167
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 171
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 174
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 178
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 182
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 178
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 188
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 180
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 182
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 184
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 192
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 186
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 182
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 192
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 190
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 186
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 192
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 188
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 192
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 203
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 215
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 221
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 218
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 221


    The levels are much closer together, but the weird thing is the jumping back that it does on occasion where it will go form 215 to 221 and then back to 218. Its literally impossible to get a smooth increment.

    Here are the levels on a 5200i with a bargraph the same width as the panel:

    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 1
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 3
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 1
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 0
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 2
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 3
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 4
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 5
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 6
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 8
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 10
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 12
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 15
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 17
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 15
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 17
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 19
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 20
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 22
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 23
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 25
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 27
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 28
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 29
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 31
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 32
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 34
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 37
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 38
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 39
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 40
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 42
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 43
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 44
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 45
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 47
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 49
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 53
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 51
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 52
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 54
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 55
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 56
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 57
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 60
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 61
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 64
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 66
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 68
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 69
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 70
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 72
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 75
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 78
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 79
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 80
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 81
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 84
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 87
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 85
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 89
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 90
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 91
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 95
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 98
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 100
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 101
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 104
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 105
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 108
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 111
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 112
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 113
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 115
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 117
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 119
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 120
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 122
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 124
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 126
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 127
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 130
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 133
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 132
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 135
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 137
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 138
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 139
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 143
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 145
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 147
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 149
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 151
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 153
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 155
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 158
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 159
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 160
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 163
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 164
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 165
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 167
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 168
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 170
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 171
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 172
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 175
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 177
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 178
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 179
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 181
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 183
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 185
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 186
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 187
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 189
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 191
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 193
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 195
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 199
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 198
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 201
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 203
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 205
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 208
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 207
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 208
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 207
    Level Value From [10002:1:1] - Level 1 Value= 208


    Still does the skipping around but much better incrementing. I think they've changed the firmware recently and now a larger number of pixels is required to register a touch/drag. My guess is that the gesture stuff required this which is too bad, since I don't use gestures and can't seem to turn it off, and its wrecking the speed and touch of regular button pressing/dragging.
    Paul
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