Home› Soundcraft User Forum› Soundcraft Mixing Consoles

Ui24 Can you Duck to Aux only?

IEMstageIEMstage Posts: 2
in Soundcraft Mixing Consoles
Hi. Is there a way to duck a channel that’s sending to aux op’s only?
I’ve seen I can duck a higher numbered sub from a lower one, but once it’s routed to sub, there’s no way to duck to aux. Just to main output.
This is to provide an ambient mic for 4 x Aux IEM mixes, which is what we’re using the mixer for.
Many thanks.

Comments

  • TAICHEETAICHEE Posts: 237

    Directly, no it cannot.

    Only the subgroup have the ducking, and subgroup only goes to the master and matrix.
    So, this is a suggestion.

    Press and hold the name column of AUX 5 and select "SWITCH TO MATRIX".
    Repeatedly switch these AUX 5-8 to MATRIX 5-8.

    Subgroup-1 FOR AUDIENCE MAIN MIX

    Subgroup-2 AMBIENT MICROPHONES MIX
    Press and hold the name column of this subgroup and select "EXCLUDE FROM MASTER".
    Set the DUCKING.
    Send this subgroup to MATRIX 5,6,7 and 8.

    MATRIX 5-8 are the IEM mix for 4 members.

    AUX-1 FB mono mix for member #1.
    Send this AUX to MATRIX 5.

    AUX-2 FB mono mix for member #2.
    Send this AUX to MATRIX 6.

    AUX-3 FB mono mix for member #3.
    Send this AUX to MATRIX 7.

    AUX-4 FB mono mix for member #4.
    Send this AUX to MATRIX 8.

  • TAICHEETAICHEE Posts: 237

    If you needed stereo IEM, I may suggest another arrangement.

    Set the ducking and "exclude from master" at the subgroup and send it to MATRIX 9 and 10.

    At the patching section, those matrix (actually it's still named as aux) master 9 to Channel 21, and matrix (actually it's still named as aux) master 10 to Channel 22.

    Now you have the post ducking ambient mix in the CH 21-22. Just send them to the 4 pairs of the IEM mixes.
    You can use AUX1-2 for member #1 and AUX 7-8 for member #4.

  • IEMstageIEMstage Posts: 2
    Hey. Thanks so much for your suggestions. The first needs a bit of thinking about but I did get very close to the second for what I used at the weekend. I’d not really realised what the matrix could offer but when I did, I was able to convert aux 9/10 to matrix and route them internally back into a pair of channels (23/23) which could then be fed to aux pairs for the 4 x IEM mixes. Before that, even though I don’t send main out to FOH, in case I ever do, I needed to remove the ambient mic from the main bus whilst still feeding the sub. So my solution was to pull down the sub but feed the sub to matrix 9/10 which works pre-fade. So I think this is the same solution as your second suggestion just without the exclude from master step (which again I hadn’t realised was an option!:-)
    I swear I did RTFM.
  • TAICHEETAICHEE Posts: 237

    Yeah, Congrats!
    You got the goal.
    It sounds good.

    Matrix is a similar thing as same as AUX for the MASTERS.
    Like you can send channels to aux bus, you can send masters ( = AUX masters, Main masters, and Subgroup masters ) to the matrix.

Sign In or Register to comment.