I got the plugins working through Bluecat's patchwork, for latest version of MacOS and Pro Tools, that could help someone out.
Just load the audiounits of the Lexicons inside the Patchwork plugin. Pretty stable too.
@HARMAN_PKarr said:
Yes, VST3 is coming. The reason they can't come without Windows is because of new iLok implementation that's universal. We can't turn on specific features without doing so for all licenses, thus Windows users would be without functionality while Mac users would not.
I think it's safe to say. Lexicon, is not giving us an update. Over 3 years, continued bs about "it's coming". Please provide us the contact information for the department in charge of sales and $$. A refund or lawsuit for fraud, misleading support and incompetence will be in the making. This is gross negligence on Harman. Provide the contact information for a refund to all purchases of this defective product of which you have kept us in bs suspended animation.
I continue to believe it will eventually happen. I also don't think there would be any legal recourse. Companies end support for software all the time and I don't remember any successful lawsuits resulting. Honestly, it's really counter productive to talk about legal action and it's going to lessen the odds we'll get much of an update. I was kind of joking in my previous post. I'm not angry as I'm fortunate to be able to use the Intel versions of these plugs. Another risk for Lexicon is that as time passes, there are other developers releasing products that are viable alternatives. I love the "Lexicon sound" as much as the next person, but if I have to move on, I can.
All I do know is if it does happen, there had BETTER be a free/very inexpensive upgrade for users who have already bought the product, because this will be the last company to port to Apple silicon by a country mile.
@Hornedog said:
All I do know is if it does happen, there had BETTER be a free/very inexpensive upgrade for users who have already bought the product, because this will be the last company to port to Apple silicon by a country mile.
There will be no "upgrade" purchase necessary for this. The new versions of the plug-in will simply be available to download for anyone just like they currently are, install over the versions you already have/own, and your already existing license will still work for the Apple Silicone/VST3 supported version.
I know the damage may be done for the trust to some of you, but know that we're musicians here too. Itching for the updates and craving the Lexicon sound we've come to know and love just like all of you, and I wouldn't be here just blowing smoke if I didn't believe in it myself. Please hang in there a little longer.
@Hornedog said:
Please hang in there a little longer.
this is really hopeful. It would bring even more hope if you could post a screenshot of the apple silicon version in your beta phase. That would raise hope even more
@Hornedog said:
Please hang in there a little longer.
this is really hopeful. It would bring even more hope if you could post a screenshot of the apple silicon version in your beta phase. That would raise hope even more
Good point, but if they didn't update the GUI, it might look exactly the same? But yeah... a screenshot doesn't seem like it would be a big security breach and go along way to show that it's not vaporware.
@Hornedog said:
All I do know is if it does happen, there had BETTER be a free/very inexpensive upgrade for users who have already bought the product, because this will be the last company to port to Apple silicon by a country mile.
There will be no "upgrade" purchase necessary for this. The new versions of the plug-in will simply be available to download for anyone just like they currently are, install over the versions you already have/own, and your already existing license will still work for the Apple Silicone/VST3 supported version.
I know the damage may be done for the trust to some of you, but know that we're musicians here too. Itching for the updates and craving the Lexicon sound we've come to know and love just like all of you, and I wouldn't be here just blowing smoke if I didn't believe in it myself. Please hang in there a little longer.
Happy to hear there's progress on VST3 updates - like others, I've been waiting a long, long time and as a Cubendo user I've actually phased PCM out of my template for now. Maybe it can make a comeback!
The other big question for me - Are there going to be multiple iLok activation options? e.g. Either 2 activations (iLok/machine) or at least an iLok cloud option? For those of us who also need to switch between studio and mobile rigs physical iLoks are a pita so having a solution when the dongle is forgotten or lost/broken is absolutely necessary! Most plugin companies do this now .. please make sure you do too..
@Hornedog said:
Please hang in there a little longer.
this is really hopeful. It would bring even more hope if you could post a screenshot of the apple silicon version in your beta phase. That would raise hope even more
Good point, but if they didn't update the GUI, it might look exactly the same? But yeah... a screenshot doesn't seem like it would be a big security breach and go along way to show that it's not vaporware.
Ask and ye shall receive**. VST3 version shown for the MPX
@Hornedog said:
All I do know is if it does happen, there had BETTER be a free/very inexpensive upgrade for users who have already bought the product, because this will be the last company to port to Apple silicon by a country mile.
There will be no "upgrade" purchase necessary for this. The new versions of the plug-in will simply be available to download for anyone just like they currently are, install over the versions you already have/own, and your already existing license will still work for the Apple Silicone/VST3 supported version.
I know the damage may be done for the trust to some of you, but know that we're musicians here too. Itching for the updates and craving the Lexicon sound we've come to know and love just like all of you, and I wouldn't be here just blowing smoke if I didn't believe in it myself. Please hang in there a little longer.
Happy to hear there's progress on VST3 updates - like others, I've been waiting a long, long time and as a Cubendo user I've actually phased PCM out of my template for now. Maybe it can make a comeback!
The other big question for me - Are there going to be multiple iLok activation options? e.g. Either 2 activations (iLok/machine) or at least an iLok cloud option? For those of us who also need to switch between studio and mobile rigs physical iLoks are a pita so having a solution when the dongle is forgotten or lost/broken is absolutely necessary! Most plugin companies do this now .. please make sure you do too..
Actually, part of this is supported now. Some time ago, the license policy was changed to where each code comes with x2 activations. It's not retroactive in the sense that it didn't change already existing licenses, but we accommodate additional activations for anybody that needs them. True it only helps those with multiple keys right now, but the change was made when the initial talks were had to broaden the iLok support methods. I just need your iLok userID to do so. I'd feel better if you didn't publicly post that here since some userID's are simply the e-mail address, but you can if you want and are comfortable with doing so. I'd recommend e-mailing HProTechSupportUSA@Harman.com with your request including your iLok userID and I'll get the case and process it.
> @HARMAN_PKarr said: > Actually, part of this is supported now. Some time ago, the license policy was changed to where each code comes with x2 activations. It's not retroactive in the sense that it didn't change already existing licenses, but we accommodate additional activations for anybody that needs them. True it only helps those with multiple keys right now, but the change was made when the initial talks were had to broaden the iLok support methods. I just need your iLok userID to do so. I'd feel better if you didn't publicly post that here since some userID's are simply the e-mail address, but you can if you want and are comfortable with doing so. I'd recommend e-mailing HProTechSupportUSA@Harman.com with your request including your iLok userID and I'll get the case and process it.
Thanks! Actually, I didn't express that very well, I think I have two activations already but both both need to be on physical iloks - there are no machine or cloud options. Has this changed?
@HARMAN_PKarr said:
Actually, part of this is supported now. Some time ago, the license policy was changed to where each code comes with x2 activations. It's not retroactive in the sense that it didn't change already existing licenses, but we accommodate additional activations for anybody that needs them. True it only helps those with multiple keys right now, but the change was made when the initial talks were had to broaden the iLok support methods. I just need your iLok userID to do so. I'd feel better if you didn't publicly post that here since some userID's are simply the e-mail address, but you can if you want and are comfortable with doing so. I'd recommend e-mailing HProTechSupportUSA@Harman.com with your request including your iLok userID and I'll get the case and process it.
Thanks! Actually, I didn't express that very well, I think I have two activations already but both both need to be on physical iloks - there are no machine or cloud options. Has this changed?
Not yet. Machine activation is what's being worked on. Cloud will be further down the line if implemented because it costs additional $ from Pace.
> @HARMAN_PKarr said: > Not yet. Machine activation is what's being worked on. Cloud will be further down the line if implemented because it costs additional $ from Pace.
Great! Vst3 and the possibility of a second activation without a physical ilok and PCM will return to my template. Truth be told, despite having lots of expensive reverb options, I've been missing it.
@Hornedog said:
Please hang in there a little longer.
this is really hopeful. It would bring even more hope if you could post a screenshot of the apple silicon version in your beta phase. That would raise hope even more
Good point, but if they didn't update the GUI, it might look exactly the same? But yeah... a screenshot doesn't seem like it would be a big security breach and go along way to show that it's not vaporware.
Ask and ye shall receive**. VST3 version shown for the MPX
@Hornedog said:
All I do know is if it does happen, there had BETTER be a free/very inexpensive upgrade for users who have already bought the product, because this will be the last company to port to Apple silicon by a country mile.
There will be no "upgrade" purchase necessary for this. The new versions of the plug-in will simply be available to download for anyone just like they currently are, install over the versions you already have/own, and your already existing license will still work for the Apple Silicone/VST3 supported version.
I know the damage may be done for the trust to some of you, but know that we're musicians here too. Itching for the updates and craving the Lexicon sound we've come to know and love just like all of you, and I wouldn't be here just blowing smoke if I didn't believe in it myself. Please hang in there a little longer.
Brilliant to hear, thanks for the reply PKerr, it's very much appreciated!
December 15, 2021 The last update was over 4 years ago. Numerous replies here at the forum from Harmon stating the update is coming. No it's not, you're lying. It doesn't take 4 years to update corrupt plugins. We as customer have been ripped off. Every other legitimate company has provided numerous updates since then. Some provide monthly updates!
Again I request for Harmon Support: To provide the contact information for the sales and accounting department for a refund here.
December 15, 2021 The last update was over 4 years ago. Numerous replies here at the forum from Harmon stating the update is coming. No it's not, you're lying.
Did you see the screenshot posted earlier? That would be going to a lot of trouble to perpetuate a lie. I agree with you that it has been an unreasonably long wait. (However, your math is off by a year. It's been over 3 years, not 4.) I do believe it won't be that much longer.
@jmsteele313 I greatly appreciate your level of empathy on the matter. As many of you know, we (me and my "predecessors" and colleagues) are all musicians that are waiting patiently as well. Loads of other company's plug-ins have come and gone through the years, as many will continue to do so. No king rules forever, but I'm happy to say that I'm pleased with what I've seen develop in the last few months, and am actually excited for the things I have seen in the works. We may not be on the pedestal that Lexicon once stood, but the bell has not rung on us yet either. Hang on just a little longer y'all.
I just need your iLok userID to do so. I'd feel better if you didn't publicly post that here since some userID's are simply the e-mail address, but you can if you want and are comfortable with doing so. I'd recommend e-mailing HProTechSupportUSA@Harman.com with your request including your iLok userID and I'll get the case and process it.
Sent my request through back on Feb 7th. Hoping the request reached you ok?
I just need your iLok userID to do so. I'd feel better if you didn't publicly post that here since some userID's are simply the e-mail address, but you can if you want and are comfortable with doing so. I'd recommend e-mailing HProTechSupportUSA@Harman.com with your request including your iLok userID and I'll get the case and process it.
Sent my request through back on Feb 7th. Hoping the request reached you ok?
If you haven't been answered yet, then probably not. I handle these pretty quickly. Can you shoot me a message here with your info?
@HARMAN_PKarr said:
If you haven't been answered yet, then probably not. I handle these pretty quickly. Can you shoot me a message here with your info?
@Hornedog said:
Please hang in there a little longer.
this is really hopeful. It would bring even more hope if you could post a screenshot of the apple silicon version in your beta phase. That would raise hope even more
Good point, but if they didn't update the GUI, it might look exactly the same? But yeah... a screenshot doesn't seem like it would be a big security breach and go along way to show that it's not vaporware.
Ask and ye shall receive**. VST3 version shown for the MPX
**on deliverables that I have control over
Thanks for sharing that info, PKarr! I think our question is about the update for Apple Silicon. Could you share some screenshots of the Apple Silicon version?
Also, we’re all tired of asking the same questions over and over. Why can’t the development team just create a roadmap thread and update it regularly? We can just check it out and know the latest progress without so many customers constantly asking. Actually, you don’t owe us anything, but Lexicon owes us a lot because we’ve paid for everything.
At the same time, I think Lexicon has the responsibility to provide us with some compensation. Mac users can’t continue to use any Lexicon products for several years since the switch to Apple Silicon processors, so we definitely missed out on a lot during that time. I know that Lexicon’s plugins are now taken over by the Flux team, so maybe we can be get some other plugins developed by the Flux team? Maybe this involves different development teams and policies, but Lexicon also has the responsibility to solve it for us because we’ve been here!
Thanks for sharing that info, PKarr! I think our question is about the update for Apple Silicon. Could you share some screenshots of the Apple Silicon version?
Yeah, I can do that. I don't have one at the ready, but I'll make it happen. The point was just to show that things are happening, but I totally understand.
Also, we’re all tired of asking the same questions over and over. Why can’t the development team just create a roadmap thread and update it regularly? We can just check it out and know the latest progress without so many customers constantly asking. Actually, you don’t owe us anything, but Lexicon owes us a lot because we’ve paid for everything.
Absolutely, you're not wrong. We've only just gotten to really know Flux recently, so perhaps this is the way it could go in the future. I just don't have that type of insight. I'm happy to scream it from the rooftops though!
At the same time, I think Lexicon has the responsibility to provide us with some compensation. Mac users can’t continue to use any Lexicon products for several years since the switch to Apple Silicon processors, so we definitely missed out on a lot during that time. I know that Lexicon’s plugins are now taken over by the Flux team, so maybe we can be get some other plugins developed by the Flux team? Maybe this involves different development teams and policies, but Lexicon also has the responsibility to solve it for us because we’ve been here!
Cheers!
I don't disagree here either, but I can certainly see both sides. I don't recall being compensated from any big players in the industry, and that's pretty much the nature of the beast that is software. On the other hand, I'd probably be up here slinging licenses like Oprah if it were up to me!
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Merry Xmas everyone, I guess I will see you here again in a years time!
I got the plugins working through Bluecat's patchwork, for latest version of MacOS and Pro Tools, that could help someone out.
Just load the audiounits of the Lexicons inside the Patchwork plugin. Pretty stable too.
Who thinks 2025 will FINALLY be the year?
I think it's safe to say. Lexicon, is not giving us an update. Over 3 years, continued bs about "it's coming". Please provide us the contact information for the department in charge of sales and $$. A refund or lawsuit for fraud, misleading support and incompetence will be in the making. This is gross negligence on Harman. Provide the contact information for a refund to all purchases of this defective product of which you have kept us in bs suspended animation.
I continue to believe it will eventually happen. I also don't think there would be any legal recourse. Companies end support for software all the time and I don't remember any successful lawsuits resulting. Honestly, it's really counter productive to talk about legal action and it's going to lessen the odds we'll get much of an update. I was kind of joking in my previous post. I'm not angry as I'm fortunate to be able to use the Intel versions of these plugs. Another risk for Lexicon is that as time passes, there are other developers releasing products that are viable alternatives. I love the "Lexicon sound" as much as the next person, but if I have to move on, I can.
All I do know is if it does happen, there had BETTER be a free/very inexpensive upgrade for users who have already bought the product, because this will be the last company to port to Apple silicon by a country mile.
Here for an update…oh wait!
is this company still in business or is the most expensive FX suite I ever bought already officially obsolete 🤣
There will be no "upgrade" purchase necessary for this. The new versions of the plug-in will simply be available to download for anyone just like they currently are, install over the versions you already have/own, and your already existing license will still work for the Apple Silicone/VST3 supported version.
I know the damage may be done for the trust to some of you, but know that we're musicians here too. Itching for the updates and craving the Lexicon sound we've come to know and love just like all of you, and I wouldn't be here just blowing smoke if I didn't believe in it myself. Please hang in there a little longer.
this is really hopeful. It would bring even more hope if you could post a screenshot of the apple silicon version in your beta phase. That would raise hope even more
Good point, but if they didn't update the GUI, it might look exactly the same? But yeah... a screenshot doesn't seem like it would be a big security breach and go along way to show that it's not vaporware.
Happy to hear there's progress on VST3 updates - like others, I've been waiting a long, long time and as a Cubendo user I've actually phased PCM out of my template for now. Maybe it can make a comeback!
The other big question for me - Are there going to be multiple iLok activation options? e.g. Either 2 activations (iLok/machine) or at least an iLok cloud option? For those of us who also need to switch between studio and mobile rigs physical iLoks are a pita so having a solution when the dongle is forgotten or lost/broken is absolutely necessary! Most plugin companies do this now .. please make sure you do too..
Ask and ye shall receive**. VST3 version shown for the MPX
**on deliverables that I have control over
Actually, part of this is supported now. Some time ago, the license policy was changed to where each code comes with x2 activations. It's not retroactive in the sense that it didn't change already existing licenses, but we accommodate additional activations for anybody that needs them. True it only helps those with multiple keys right now, but the change was made when the initial talks were had to broaden the iLok support methods. I just need your iLok userID to do so. I'd feel better if you didn't publicly post that here since some userID's are simply the e-mail address, but you can if you want and are comfortable with doing so. I'd recommend e-mailing HProTechSupportUSA@Harman.com with your request including your iLok userID and I'll get the case and process it.
> Actually, part of this is supported now. Some time ago, the license policy was changed to where each code comes with x2 activations. It's not retroactive in the sense that it didn't change already existing licenses, but we accommodate additional activations for anybody that needs them. True it only helps those with multiple keys right now, but the change was made when the initial talks were had to broaden the iLok support methods. I just need your iLok userID to do so. I'd feel better if you didn't publicly post that here since some userID's are simply the e-mail address, but you can if you want and are comfortable with doing so. I'd recommend e-mailing HProTechSupportUSA@Harman.com with your request including your iLok userID and I'll get the case and process it.
Thanks! Actually, I didn't express that very well, I think I have two activations already but both both need to be on physical iloks - there are no machine or cloud options. Has this changed?
Not yet. Machine activation is what's being worked on. Cloud will be further down the line if implemented because it costs additional $ from Pace.
> Not yet. Machine activation is what's being worked on. Cloud will be further down the line if implemented because it costs additional $ from Pace.
Great! Vst3 and the possibility of a second activation without a physical ilok and PCM will return to my template. Truth be told, despite having lots of expensive reverb options, I've been missing it.
Wooohooo!!! Sweet!!! Thanks PKarr!
Brilliant to hear, thanks for the reply PKerr, it's very much appreciated!
December 15, 2021 The last update was over 4 years ago. Numerous replies here at the forum from Harmon stating the update is coming. No it's not, you're lying. It doesn't take 4 years to update corrupt plugins. We as customer have been ripped off. Every other legitimate company has provided numerous updates since then. Some provide monthly updates!
Again I request for Harmon Support: To provide the contact information for the sales and accounting department for a refund here.
Did you see the screenshot posted earlier? That would be going to a lot of trouble to perpetuate a lie. I agree with you that it has been an unreasonably long wait. (However, your math is off by a year. It's been over 3 years, not 4.) I do believe it won't be that much longer.
@jmsteele313 I greatly appreciate your level of empathy on the matter. As many of you know, we (me and my "predecessors" and colleagues) are all musicians that are waiting patiently as well. Loads of other company's plug-ins have come and gone through the years, as many will continue to do so. No king rules forever, but I'm happy to say that I'm pleased with what I've seen develop in the last few months, and am actually excited for the things I have seen in the works. We may not be on the pedestal that Lexicon once stood, but the bell has not rung on us yet either. Hang on just a little longer y'all.
Trying my best to be patient here and appreciate the updates and positive news. Are we talking days/weeks/months away?
I just need your iLok userID to do so. I'd feel better if you didn't publicly post that here since some userID's are simply the e-mail address, but you can if you want and are comfortable with doing so. I'd recommend e-mailing HProTechSupportUSA@Harman.com with your request including your iLok userID and I'll get the case and process it.
Sent my request through back on Feb 7th. Hoping the request reached you ok?
If you haven't been answered yet, then probably not. I handle these pretty quickly. Can you shoot me a message here with your info?
Sure, thanks - PM sent.
I'm on the edge of my seat myself is all..
Thanks for sharing that info, PKarr! I think our question is about the update for Apple Silicon. Could you share some screenshots of the Apple Silicon version?
Also, we’re all tired of asking the same questions over and over. Why can’t the development team just create a roadmap thread and update it regularly? We can just check it out and know the latest progress without so many customers constantly asking. Actually, you don’t owe us anything, but Lexicon owes us a lot because we’ve paid for everything.
At the same time, I think Lexicon has the responsibility to provide us with some compensation. Mac users can’t continue to use any Lexicon products for several years since the switch to Apple Silicon processors, so we definitely missed out on a lot during that time. I know that Lexicon’s plugins are now taken over by the Flux team, so maybe we can be get some other plugins developed by the Flux team? Maybe this involves different development teams and policies, but Lexicon also has the responsibility to solve it for us because we’ve been here!
Cheers!
Yeah, I can do that. I don't have one at the ready, but I'll make it happen. The point was just to show that things are happening, but I totally understand.
Absolutely, you're not wrong. We've only just gotten to really know Flux recently, so perhaps this is the way it could go in the future. I just don't have that type of insight. I'm happy to scream it from the rooftops though!
I don't disagree here either, but I can certainly see both sides. I don't recall being compensated from any big players in the industry, and that's pretty much the nature of the beast that is software. On the other hand, I'd probably be up here slinging licenses like Oprah if it were up to me!