December 15, 2021 The last update was over 4 years ago. Numerous replies here at the forum from Harmon stating the update is coming. No it's not, you're lying.
Did you see the screenshot posted earlier? That would be going to a lot of trouble to perpetuate a lie. I agree with you that it has been an unreasonably long wait. (However, your math is off by a year. It's been over 3 years, not 4.) I do believe it won't be that much longer.
LOL you don't believe it will be that much longer??? The basis of your belief system is as good as my math. ;-)
Never the less... It doesn't take 3 years to create a plugin update (unless no one is working) - this is not rocket science!!!! LMAO... And whomever created the last update provided wrong version information within the plugs as well. Pretty sloppy & pathetic. Have a nice day.
December 15, 2021 The last update was over 4 years ago. Numerous replies here at the forum from Harmon stating the update is coming. No it's not, you're lying.
Did you see the screenshot posted earlier? That would be going to a lot of trouble to perpetuate a lie. I agree with you that it has been an unreasonably long wait. (However, your math is off by a year. It's been over 3 years, not 4.) I do believe it won't be that much longer.
LOL you don't believe it will be that much longer??? The basis of your belief system is as good as my math. ;-)
Never the less... It doesn't take 3 years to create a plugin update (unless no one is working) - this is not rocket science!!!! LMAO... And whomever created the last update provided wrong version information within the plugs as well. Pretty sloppy & pathetic. Have a nice day.
I'm NOT saying that it isn't inexcusable that the Apple Silicon update has taken this long. Of course it's taken way too long. However, I beta test for a couple well known music software developers, and the screenshot that was posted looks legit. From my personal experience, if there's an internal alpha, I imagine they're not too far from a beta at this point.
You may not have followed all of the history here, but when the previous company rep announced he was moving on, he pretty much implied that the programmer that had been working on the Apple Silicon versions was in over his head a bit. I have heard that Harman acquired Flux and with that some additional programmer talent and things have picked up.
Again... I'm using a Mac-based DAW that supports Audio Units, and thus the current versions work "okay" for me now. I might be more upset if I needed AAX or VST3, both formats require running the DAW itself in Rosetta. Either way, there's nothing you or I can do to make it go faster. If you just need to come here to vent and that's helpful to you, then that's fine too. But any ire directed at the company rep in the forum is misplaced. It's not like he's responsible for the decisions further up the ladder.
December 15, 2021 The last update was over 4 years ago. Numerous replies here at the forum from Harmon stating the update is coming. No it's not, you're lying.
Did you see the screenshot posted earlier? That would be going to a lot of trouble to perpetuate a lie. I agree with you that it has been an unreasonably long wait. (However, your math is off by a year. It's been over 3 years, not 4.) I do believe it won't be that much longer.
LOL you don't believe it will be that much longer??? The basis of your belief system is as good as my math. ;-)
Never the less... It doesn't take 3 years to create a plugin update (unless no one is working) - this is not rocket science!!!! LMAO... And whomever created the last update provided wrong version information within the plugs as well. Pretty sloppy & pathetic. Have a nice day.
Wrong version information? Just to clarify, as updates come out, numbers go up, kind of similar to rockets
I know there is no convincing some out there, but I thank those of you who remain patient. I wish I could share more information, but I can't. The garage door is opening, just slowly. Take that metaphor as you like.
As a Pro Tools user, I was only interested in the AAX format, but when I introduced the Wild Blue Sound Silencer, I noticed that the PCM Reverb Bundle didn't include VST3. I learned from this thread that there are many English speakers who feel the same way. Still, PCM Reverb was a must for me in my mix, so I've been using my 2018 Mac Mini as my primary machine just to keep using it.
But it's finally reaching its limit. I'm buying the upcoming Mac Studio. I've decided to say goodbye to some plug-ins that don't support Apple Silicon (e.g. CA-2A), but I don't want to give up on PCM Reverb.
I'm willing to pay extra for it, like the PSP TripleMeter 3.1, as long as there are ongoing updates.
Side note: Is there any hope of eliminating the -130 to -145dB floor noise? PCM Native Room doesn't have this problem.
@euNor said:
As a Pro Tools user, I was only interested in the AAX format, but when I introduced the Wild Blue Sound Silencer, I noticed that the PCM Reverb Bundle didn't include VST3. I learned from this thread that there are many English speakers who feel the same way. Still, PCM Reverb was a must for me in my mix, so I've been using my 2018 Mac Mini as my primary machine just to keep using it.
But it's finally reaching its limit. I'm buying the upcoming Mac Studio. I've decided to say goodbye to some plug-ins that don't support Apple Silicon (e.g. CA-2A), but I don't want to give up on PCM Reverb.
I'm willing to pay extra for it, like the PSP TripleMeter 3.1, as long as there are ongoing updates.
Side note: Is there any hope of eliminating the -130 to -145dB floor noise? PCM Native Room doesn't have this problem.
Good news is that there will be no need to pay for any updates! Small spoiler, but those of you following along here might want to go ahead and get familiar with the Flux::Center app.
I'm certainly interested in hearing more about this floor noise? Can you maybe message me about this and we can take this to e-mail? I'd like screenshots and setup information that I can take to the developers to look at.
The Mac Studio I bought the other day arrived and was set up! Except for the PCM reverb ...... I'm only going to install the new version on this Mac that will be released soon.
I have a deactivated Vintage Plate sitting in my Mix session template ......
@euNor said:
The Mac Studio I bought the other day arrived and was set up! Except for the PCM reverb ...... I'm only going to install the new version on this Mac that will be released soon.
I have a deactivated Vintage Plate sitting in my Mix session template ......
I understand the sentiment. At the same time, depending on when the new version is released, if you're using a DAW that supports Audio Units, I've found the old versions seem to work decently using the "per-plug-in" form of Rosetta 2. So it's not that much of a problem. If you require VST3 or AAX, then yeah... you just have to wait.
Well, interesting, all of the Reverb Bundle PDF manuals show an April 2025 upload date. I skimmed through the reverb bundle manual but it still shows a copyright date of 2016 and file locations for Windows XP, Vista and 7. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't own any Flux plugs, can they be used without an ilok key present, and be authorised on the computer instead?
Google says yeah, but just want to check with any actual users out there?
@Hornedog said:
I don't own any Flux plugs, can they be used without an ilok key present, and be authorised on the computer instead?
Google says yeah, but just want to check with any actual users out there?
I'm using Flux Mira authorized to computer. Comes with 2 authorizations.
It's April 2025 - PCM Bundle Last Updated: Dec 15, 2021.
A plethora of promises, stories & excuses for years regarding "the upcoming update" that is never coming from a negligent company who has taken advantage of its buyers.
Simply pathetic. Let's just accept - we've been ripped off and this forum is useless in helping the situation.
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LOL you don't believe it will be that much longer??? The basis of your belief system is as good as my math. ;-)
Never the less... It doesn't take 3 years to create a plugin update (unless no one is working) - this is not rocket science!!!! LMAO... And whomever created the last update provided wrong version information within the plugs as well. Pretty sloppy & pathetic. Have a nice day.
I'm NOT saying that it isn't inexcusable that the Apple Silicon update has taken this long. Of course it's taken way too long. However, I beta test for a couple well known music software developers, and the screenshot that was posted looks legit. From my personal experience, if there's an internal alpha, I imagine they're not too far from a beta at this point.
You may not have followed all of the history here, but when the previous company rep announced he was moving on, he pretty much implied that the programmer that had been working on the Apple Silicon versions was in over his head a bit. I have heard that Harman acquired Flux and with that some additional programmer talent and things have picked up.
Again... I'm using a Mac-based DAW that supports Audio Units, and thus the current versions work "okay" for me now. I might be more upset if I needed AAX or VST3, both formats require running the DAW itself in Rosetta. Either way, there's nothing you or I can do to make it go faster. If you just need to come here to vent and that's helpful to you, then that's fine too. But any ire directed at the company rep in the forum is misplaced. It's not like he's responsible for the decisions further up the ladder.
Wrong version information? Just to clarify, as updates come out, numbers go up, kind of similar to rockets
I know there is no convincing some out there, but I thank those of you who remain patient. I wish I could share more information, but I can't. The garage door is opening, just slowly. Take that metaphor as you like.
As a Pro Tools user, I was only interested in the AAX format, but when I introduced the Wild Blue Sound Silencer, I noticed that the PCM Reverb Bundle didn't include VST3. I learned from this thread that there are many English speakers who feel the same way. Still, PCM Reverb was a must for me in my mix, so I've been using my 2018 Mac Mini as my primary machine just to keep using it.
But it's finally reaching its limit. I'm buying the upcoming Mac Studio. I've decided to say goodbye to some plug-ins that don't support Apple Silicon (e.g. CA-2A), but I don't want to give up on PCM Reverb.
I'm willing to pay extra for it, like the PSP TripleMeter 3.1, as long as there are ongoing updates.
Side note: Is there any hope of eliminating the -130 to -145dB floor noise? PCM Native Room doesn't have this problem.
Good news is that there will be no need to pay for any updates! Small spoiler, but those of you following along here might want to go ahead and get familiar with the Flux::Center app.
I'm certainly interested in hearing more about this floor noise? Can you maybe message me about this and we can take this to e-mail? I'd like screenshots and setup information that I can take to the developers to look at.
So will there be an update to the PCM bundle as well? I only saw a screenshot of MPX.
I purchased this bundle with the promise of an update
As the Beatles would say, "Don't let me down"
Looks like Lexicon Products now show up in the iLok section of a users Flux account...
Yes, updates are coming for ALL plug-ins. PCM-R, PCM-E, LXP, MPX (Including MPXi/MPXL demo versions)
GUI refresh?
So we can actually use them on modern screens?
Thanks for the update!
The Mac Studio I bought the other day arrived and was set up! Except for the PCM reverb ...... I'm only going to install the new version on this Mac that will be released soon.
I have a deactivated Vintage Plate sitting in my Mix session template ......
I understand the sentiment. At the same time, depending on when the new version is released, if you're using a DAW that supports Audio Units, I've found the old versions seem to work decently using the "per-plug-in" form of Rosetta 2. So it's not that much of a problem. If you require VST3 or AAX, then yeah... you just have to wait.
???!!!!
I was hoping there would be more substantial news by now. Q2 2025 has begun.
This is getting a bit exciting, can almost taste the vst3 version for my Cubase 14 install, lol.
or may be the VST "4"
Well, interesting, all of the Reverb Bundle PDF manuals show an April 2025 upload date. I skimmed through the reverb bundle manual but it still shows a copyright date of 2016 and file locations for Windows XP, Vista and 7. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't own any Flux plugs, can they be used without an ilok key present, and be authorised on the computer instead?
Google says yeah, but just want to check with any actual users out there?
I'm using Flux Mira authorized to computer. Comes with 2 authorizations.
Hmmmm... taking quite a while to test these considering we saw a screen shot of an alpha (?) version a while back? I hope it's coming soon!
It's April 2025 - PCM Bundle Last Updated: Dec 15, 2021.
A plethora of promises, stories & excuses for years regarding "the upcoming update" that is never coming from a negligent company who has taken advantage of its buyers.
Simply pathetic. Let's just accept - we've been ripped off and this forum is useless in helping the situation.